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  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    The word “see” is a ‘turn of phrase’ now, since when?

    "I can see [thing i predict will happen]" has been a turn of phrase in english for centuries

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      That's not a turn of phrase, that's just a declarative sentence, also are you like their significant other or something?

      Like damn kiss-ass let them explain it for themself

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        That’s not a turn of phrase, that’s just a declarative sentence

        You didn't know what it meant 20 minutes ago bud

        also are you like their significant other or something?

        No

        Like damn kiss-ass let them explain it for themself

        It's an incredibly widely used phrase

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          lol I understood perfectly what they meant, I was contesting their claim and asking for PROOF, that's why I put "see" in quotation marks because I wanted to know where they had come across these made-up alienated people mad about pronoun struggle sessions

          No

          Goddamn Shrek in shiny armor over here

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            lol I understood perfectly what they meant, I was contesting their claim and asking for PROOF, that’s why I put “see” in quotation marks because I wanted to know where they had come across these made-up alienated people mad about pronoun struggle sessions

            How can one “see” people becoming alienated if the alienation leads them to not engage with threads or post

            Looks like you took it literally to me mate

            Goddamn Shrek in shiny armor over here

            What does that even mean

            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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              Looks like you took it literally to me mate

              Yes, I took the obvious declarative statement literally, as in they had "seen" people making posts or comments describing their deeply felt alienation over a boring-ass struggle session, and not simply talking out their ass making wild assume-oh I'm sorry "prEdiCtiOns" about shit they're just guessing is happening..somewhere??? You do realize your reading of their comment makes them look dumb af right?

              What does that even mean

              It means you're gonna get your swamp back, congratulations

              • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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                You still can't accept that "I can see [thing]" means "I predict" huh?

                It means you’re gonna get your swamp back, congratulations

                That didn't make it any clearer

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                  You still can’t accept that “I can see [thing]” means “I predict” huh?

                  If I didn't think their sentence meant "I predict" I wouldn't have called it an assumption, and you still can't accept that regardless of whether it's a prediction, its still a declarative statement about something that will happen, not a "turn of phrase" I was being generous and assuming they had something to BACK UP THEIR DECLARATIVE PREDICTION, but you are right they were just making a baseless conjecture

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                    How can one “see” people becoming alienated if the alienation leads them to not engage with threads or post

                    That definitely looks like you thought they meant seeing with their eyeballs

                    And you still haven't explained the shrek thing

                    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                      Uh yes, their prediction can't be confirmed if nobody actually sees the alienation they're predicting taking place, which makes their claim unfalsifiable horseshit, which is why I had assumed they had seen something to back that prediction up, and led to me asking them WHAT WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

                      Which led to you misunderstanding what the term "turn of phrase" means

                      Which led to me making a pronoun Faux pas, largely because I confused your pronouns with theirs?

                      Which led to you revealing you didn't have a childhood since you don't know what Shrek is

                      Which led to me explaining the basics of ENG 12 to you

                      Which led to you somehow assuming I hadn't realized they were making a prediction despite the fact I had indeed realized that the whole time, which is why I asked that question in my first comment

                      Did I miss anything, holy shit what a dumb fuckin thread

                      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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                        since you don’t know what Shrek is

                        I know what it is, i don't know wtf you meant by calling me "shrek in tiny armour"

                        And it is a turn of phrase

                            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                              Autocorrect "corrects" MY comments when YOU receive them? I highly doubt that, stop fronting you got mad so you read too fast, it's ok happens to the best of us 👍

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                                  So you literally don't know what the phrase "Knight in Shining Armor" means? Lol that's even funnier, is that a British thing?

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                                    I know what knight in shining armour means, dunno what the fuck shrek has to do with it

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                                      Shrek wore armor to save the Princess from the sexy Dragon in the movie, you're Shrek, I'm the Dragon and WHOEVER THE FUCK I was responding to originally before you decided to butt in lmao is the gender-neutral princess

                                      Edit: Who the fuck is this third wheel who keeps downvoting along with you, bitch do you know how deep we are in this shit thread, stop following us

                                      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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                                        Not "defending them" at any point in this conversation, but ok

                                        Edit: and I'm not downvoting you, except the two misgendering comments up top

                                        • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                                          This thread is literally on their behalf, that is LOVE bruh and don't you deny it

                                          and I’m not downvoting you, except the two misgendering comments up top

                                          So there's two of them huh, damn got yourself a Donkey and Puss-y in Boots

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                                            This thread is literally on their behalf

                                            I just stated the meaning of the turn of phrase they used because it looked like you didn't know what it meant.

                                            Then you somehow managed to misgender them twice, when we all have our pronouns right next to our names, in a thread about a fucking pronoun struggle session.

                                            You then argued that "I can see [thing i predict]" isn't a turn of phrase (it is)

                                            Then you accused me of "white knighting" but tried to be cute about it

                                            That's it

                                            That's all this thread is

                                            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                                              Does "turn of phrase" mean something different in British land, you literally don't know what the term means, since you confused a declarative statement that used the word "see" as an Intransitive Verb, there is no expression being used, they clearly thought they would literally see (as in the action of seeing regarding the action of reading) a state of alienation as a result of the struggle session

                                              If they used the word "see" as an idiom then their comment is gibberish

                                              Then you somehow managed to misgender them twice,

                                              Yeah I don't know any trans people in real life so this doesn't come easily, I have to think and check before I type, and I got your pronouns stuck in my head instead thanks to your reflexive white knighting

                                              Then you accused me of “white knighting”

                                              Want me to say it again

                                              • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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                                                "I can see [thing i predict]" is an idiomatic way of saying "i predict [thing i predict]" which is what a turn of phrase is

                                                And i literally have not defended them at all in this entire thread, go back and read it.

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                                                  It's not idiomatic, "I can see" is a positive declarative statement using an INTRANSITIVE VERB "see" to lead into another positive declarative statement in the form of a prediction, there's no "turning" because the phrase was already clear, there's no allusion

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                                                    Neither the Merriam Webster, the Oxford English, nor the Cambridge dictionaries make any indication there needs to be allusion, it just means "a way of saying something"

                                                    MW
                                                    Cambridge
                                                    Oxford isn't available online as far as i can tell, but I checked in my physical one

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                                                      It's almost like the term is devoid of content and only makes sense when used as a synonym for "idiom"

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                                                        You should both log off for a while.

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                                                          It only means something when used as a synonym for "idiom" which is why I've been disagreeing with you this whole time, THEY did not use an idiom which is why I asked them if they had anything to back up their declarative statement/prediction, then you went CRAZY!!! or as the brits say BONKERS!!! and tried to lop my head off

                                                          Well nephew I hope you learned a valuable lesson today

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                                                            I CAN SEE THING HAPPENING IS A TURN OF PHRASE
                                                            YOU SAID IT ISN'T A TURN OF PHRASE
                                                            THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ARGUING
                                                            AND YOUR WEIRD DEFLECTIONS INTO MY NON EXISTENT WHITE KNIGHTING THAT I HAVENT BEEN DOING
                                                            AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

                                                            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                                                              It's a turn of phrase if you have a dumb definition of the term "turn of phrase"

                                                              I have a superior definition, which means I win

                                                              You can consider school out of session 👍