It's easier now to be vegan than ever. Vegan butter and yoghurt is why I'm already half way there my self without literally any effort. With soups and stews, vegan chili, vegan curry and stir frys, more than half the meals I eat are vegan... and I started with having never voluntarily eaten a vegetable in my life.
Being vegan isn't more expensive unless you're buying frozen meat substitutes and other processed foods. Beans, rice, lentils, and potatoes are dirt cheap and can supply all of your carbs and some protein. Add greens and other vegetables that you like. Bake your own bread. Make your own sauces and stocks. The only reason most people think being vegan is expensive is because they cling on to things that they used to eat and buy the extremely expensive premade vegan versions of them.
I'm guessing you're talking more about fake meats. I really only make inexpensive vegan stuff my self. Vegetable stew is just carrot, leek, potato and stock. Add salt, a tonne of pepper and eat with fresh bread and vegan butter. I don't know if there's anything nicer for cheaper that exists in the world.
Chili - tinned beans of various kinds. Curry - lentils or chickpeas although I use jackfruit often which I'll give you, is more expensive. Stir fry - Tofu which is more expensive than meat if you don't buy it in large quantities, but evens out if you just use less? Not the best consolation I know, but works.
Sometimes I just have baked apples ( cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger and stevia/sugar) for dinner with some vegan yoghurt as I'm not a big fan of dinner + dessert, I go one or the other. But it's the same price as regular yoghurt around my parts. Although you can culture your own if you wanna save money.
This is why I've slipped in to near-veganism. I do still eat meat every now and again but when I do I go big with a steak or brisket, fried chicken ect. Tell a lie though, I do eat tinned Tuna at least once a week. Again I'm not actually aiming for veganism but easily more than half my meals don't have meat in them. I guess my rule is no unnecessary meat on top of no dairy.
I haven't given up meat and I probably wont ever do so completely because I enjoy cooking too much. I limit it as much as possible and I find I'm cooking more and more vegan food.
I'd say definitely the first big step for me was giving up dairy, which came well before I started to substitute meat or remove it all together in my recipes.
I wouldn't find it so obnoxious, if they just, like, tried a carnivore diet because they thought it would work for them, or whatever. OK. Knock yourself out.
But what makes this funny is that most of the time they're so condescending about it, like they can't wait to tell you how stupid you are for not drinking a steak and egg smoothie or whatever.
In our sports nutrition class, we used the text (Sports Nutrition – A Practice Manual for Professionals 4E) that was basically a collection of review papers and meta-analyses. We looked at two papers that came to the conclusion that 1.39 and 1.41 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight is probably the most that a 100 kg lean male atlete (basically a bodybuilder) would need to take in to satisfy their protein requirements.
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Scientific evidence indicates that protein levels more than 1.7 to 1.8 g/kg result in oxidation of the excess amino acids (28). In other words, a higher than recommended protein intake does not result in greater muscle gain, even with an intense resistance training program. Therefore, it is important to increase both dietary carbohydrates and protein as well as consume an adequate amount of fat to create an energy excess.
Being that meat is supposed to be slow to digest, couldnt it be inferred that we dont actually need to eat that much meat to begin with?
Who do they think they’re getting one over on, shitting out of their doodoo ass like that?
Also mods, please give us a /c/vegan our comrades yearn for freedom and i want to see the recipes they share!
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If we do the job right, yes.
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It's easier now to be vegan than ever. Vegan butter and yoghurt is why I'm already half way there my self without literally any effort. With soups and stews, vegan chili, vegan curry and stir frys, more than half the meals I eat are vegan... and I started with having never voluntarily eaten a vegetable in my life.
I just wish going Vegan wasn't more expensive (depending on where you shop, obviously) than "normal"/non-Vegan diets. :/
It's that and the seasoning/flavor that stops me (beyond wanting a burger/steak now and then) from going Vegan.
Being vegan isn't more expensive unless you're buying frozen meat substitutes and other processed foods. Beans, rice, lentils, and potatoes are dirt cheap and can supply all of your carbs and some protein. Add greens and other vegetables that you like. Bake your own bread. Make your own sauces and stocks. The only reason most people think being vegan is expensive is because they cling on to things that they used to eat and buy the extremely expensive premade vegan versions of them.
I'm guessing you're talking more about fake meats. I really only make inexpensive vegan stuff my self. Vegetable stew is just carrot, leek, potato and stock. Add salt, a tonne of pepper and eat with fresh bread and vegan butter. I don't know if there's anything nicer for cheaper that exists in the world.
Chili - tinned beans of various kinds. Curry - lentils or chickpeas although I use jackfruit often which I'll give you, is more expensive. Stir fry - Tofu which is more expensive than meat if you don't buy it in large quantities, but evens out if you just use less? Not the best consolation I know, but works.
Sometimes I just have baked apples ( cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger and stevia/sugar) for dinner with some vegan yoghurt as I'm not a big fan of dinner + dessert, I go one or the other. But it's the same price as regular yoghurt around my parts. Although you can culture your own if you wanna save money.
This is why I've slipped in to near-veganism. I do still eat meat every now and again but when I do I go big with a steak or brisket, fried chicken ect. Tell a lie though, I do eat tinned Tuna at least once a week. Again I'm not actually aiming for veganism but easily more than half my meals don't have meat in them. I guess my rule is no unnecessary meat on top of no dairy.
facts it’s just a matter of chipping away first no meat then go oat milk instead of milk ect
I haven't given up meat and I probably wont ever do so completely because I enjoy cooking too much. I limit it as much as possible and I find I'm cooking more and more vegan food.
I'd say definitely the first big step for me was giving up dairy, which came well before I started to substitute meat or remove it all together in my recipes.
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I wouldn't find it so obnoxious, if they just, like, tried a carnivore diet because they thought it would work for them, or whatever. OK. Knock yourself out.
But what makes this funny is that most of the time they're so condescending about it, like they can't wait to tell you how stupid you are for not drinking a steak and egg smoothie or whatever.
In our sports nutrition class, we used the text (Sports Nutrition – A Practice Manual for Professionals 4E) that was basically a collection of review papers and meta-analyses. We looked at two papers that came to the conclusion that 1.39 and 1.41 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight is probably the most that a 100 kg lean male atlete (basically a bodybuilder) would need to take in to satisfy their protein requirements.
Here's a quote from page 223: