Just saw this shared on Facebook and had to point out that Hamas has been calling for an end to the war this entire time and doing so again now means that their stance hasn’t changed.

    • RedDawn [he/him]
      hexagon
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      5 hours ago

      They’ve been calling for it for ages. But peace predicated on an actual end to the war which means a full end to the illegal occupation and siege of Gaza etc.

  • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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    10 hours ago

    Could be ignorance but could also be that he knows the base doesn’t really know anything and is just gonna buy the lie like they always do. I mean he’s got them all believing that the Abraham accords were some great attempt at peace in the region rather than further attempts to alienate the Palestinian people.

    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
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      6 hours ago

      Those motherfuckers denied everyday that global warming is a thing, until December 31 2020 where they celebrated a year of record low emissions.

    • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]
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      7 hours ago

      I think this is it, the point isn't to be right, it's to get the cat out of the bag ASAP, and while the libs are out chasing it, find another cat to let out of the bag.

  • miz [any, any]
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    11 hours ago

    hey maybe im just feeling kinda down rn but is there any point to reading tons of shit and being smart if it just means you will be crushingly lonely and alienated because everyone you meet topped out at one fish two fish

    • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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      9 hours ago

      For what it's worth: I think most of those people are also crushingly lonely and alienated...because those things are due to material conditions more than what you've read.

      Reading tons of shit and educating yourself doesn't make you any more lonely and alienated so much as it helps you correctly diagnose and identify the source of those things. Also doesn't give you any sort of special power/ability to fix it on your own though.

    • CutieBootieTootie [she/her]
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      9 hours ago

      shrug-outta-hecks Honestly that's kind of a chauvinistic attitude, people really are not stupid generally, if at this time of heightened alienation you can't find anybody to talk to or commiserate about these things with you might need to go out of your way to find others who are of the same mindset. It's our job as the people who know these things to explain them patiently and kindly to others who want to hear, because ultimately our perspective is correct and beneficial for the vast majority of people (the working class). I've done this in my own community and put a lot of people towards socialism simply by being a good and patient friend and have never once stopped explaining how or why socialism would be better for a given situation.

      I don't blame you for feeling that way though, without being in a proper organization it can feel really depressing and like nobody gets it, and that there's no way to start these conversations. I really recommend finding whatever org exists in your area and getting connected, even if it's a bit far out of your way for now. For me, being in a revolutionary org has been able to keep my revolutionary optimism strong, and I'm not so scared or frustrated. I'm in the PSL but I've heard good things about FRSO and the DSA as always.

    • SevenSkalls [he/him]
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      edit-2
      9 hours ago

      No doomerism! 😤 I know shit sucks right now, but this is the time to radicalize libs. A lot are despondent and looking for something to do and some explanation. With all that reading, you have an explanation to offer them. We got this!

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      9 hours ago

      one fish two fish

      Trump should read that from beginning to end at one of his rallies.

      We took a look. We saw a Nook.
      On his head he had a hook.
      On his hook he had a book.
      On his book was "How to Cook" We saw him sit and try to cook
      But a Nook can't read, so a Nook can't Cook.
      SO...
      What good to a Nook is a hook cook book?

      • miz [any, any]
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        edit-2
        9 hours ago

        where is the topical reference to Brian Hook

  • carpoftruth [any, any]
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    11 hours ago

    This is like when trump senior was flattered to be invited to speak with Kim and all the libs flipped out about legitimizing the dprk