I've personally never thought of politics as a viable route in to power anyway., except making an exception for Corbyn's moonshot. Even the flags, banners and names of socialism I see as completely superfluous to something that is universal and self-evident. Pushing one way or the other is always a tactical choice, never a principled one, which is why I'll give time to allow a full picture to emerge on Starmer's leadership. I fear the day we have a socialist half-way into power who is then discredited by parts of the left because they didn't pay lip-service to condemn a certain aspect of capitalism. It's so easy to have our own principles twisted back on us, and it happens all the time. You're worried Starmer is the opposite, paying lip-service to socialists. That's fair.
I agree with everything you're saying but I don't very much believe in taking up a position of certainty in situations that are ambiguous because they're so vastly complex. We don't know how events will unfold. Actions that have failed under the best conditions could work under the worst ones. Starmer could be the worse outcome for Labour, but right now I don't see that as that case. But in respect of what you said I will be more careful about promoting this view.
I do have an idea of how I want to pursue alternative action, only because I've examined the actions that have failed. It's always been my opinion that a resistance needs to be like waves the effort to apply unrelenting pressure with reactive force just tends to give the worst outcomes sadly.
I genuinely don't know how Starmer could be any more transparent and up front about his politics or his active attempt to destroy and exile the left. If you want to cross you fingers and ignore it, or can't see it, then I honestly don't know what to tell you.
I appreciate you engaging with me though. And sorry about the delayed response, busy weekend.
I've personally never thought of politics as a viable route in to power anyway., except making an exception for Corbyn's moonshot. Even the flags, banners and names of socialism I see as completely superfluous to something that is universal and self-evident. Pushing one way or the other is always a tactical choice, never a principled one, which is why I'll give time to allow a full picture to emerge on Starmer's leadership. I fear the day we have a socialist half-way into power who is then discredited by parts of the left because they didn't pay lip-service to condemn a certain aspect of capitalism. It's so easy to have our own principles twisted back on us, and it happens all the time. You're worried Starmer is the opposite, paying lip-service to socialists. That's fair.
I agree with everything you're saying but I don't very much believe in taking up a position of certainty in situations that are ambiguous because they're so vastly complex. We don't know how events will unfold. Actions that have failed under the best conditions could work under the worst ones. Starmer could be the worse outcome for Labour, but right now I don't see that as that case. But in respect of what you said I will be more careful about promoting this view.
I do have an idea of how I want to pursue alternative action, only because I've examined the actions that have failed. It's always been my opinion that a resistance needs to be like waves the effort to apply unrelenting pressure with reactive force just tends to give the worst outcomes sadly.
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I genuinely don't know how Starmer could be any more transparent and up front about his politics or his active attempt to destroy and exile the left. If you want to cross you fingers and ignore it, or can't see it, then I honestly don't know what to tell you.
I appreciate you engaging with me though. And sorry about the delayed response, busy weekend.