• JayTwo [any]
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    4 years ago

    So, this one is kind of related: why is the word "hispanic" starting to be considered bad?

    The explanations I got made no sense. That it doesn't refer to the actual place. Except that it does refer to the old timey name. Also that the old timey name is colonialist. Ok, yes, it totally is, but, like, how is Hispaniola, the old term, any worse than Latin America? They both imply settler colonialism.

    Is it because people with Latinx heritage were able to successfully own the term?

    • LangdonAlger [any]
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      4 years ago

      hispanic also implies of spanish origin which erases a lot of the indigenous culture and identity of latin americans, plus it excludes, like, a brazilian people

      • ekjp [any]
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        2 years ago

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        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Is "First Nations" catching on their like in the anglo settler states?

          • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I hope it does. So many race terms are bullshit (because race is a social construct). How many times have you met a paper-white person?

            • lvysaur [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              It's also because they were created by whites

          • Polemarchos [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            That's just going to lead to thousands of mexican elizabeth warrens crawling out of the woodworks.

        • gay [any]
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          4 years ago

          There are many and the "appropriate term" changes from one country to another. Aboriginal, indigenous, "original peoples", native nations, pre-columbian nations, the actual name of the nation you're speaking about, a name a group of nations have chosen for themselves. I'm probably missing a few.

      • Skinhn [they/them,any]
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        4 years ago

        So does Latin though, there's a good article online about the colonial project of a 'latin' in the ~1800s

      • JayTwo [any]
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        4 years ago

        Latin, though, implies European ancestry. Roman empire and whatnot.

        I'm thinking that it's because Latin is the name of both a dead language and a descendent family of languages, not a culture, so it's more like "Spanish speaking america", than Hispaniola's "Spanish America."

        Also, it's Portuguese inclusive, yeah.

        Plus since Latin is a dead language, Latinx people were successfully able to take ownership of the term "Latin". So, when you think someone is "Latin" you don't think of Nero or Cesar or whatever.

        • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          i see latin mostly refering to the use of a latin language, since latinos have included haiti, however its not perfect since it not includes the guyanas and sometime involves quebec too

          • JayTwo [any]
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            4 years ago

            I've never heard Haitians be referred to as Latino/Latinx. Dominicans, yes, and it's the same island. But not Haitians. I've always heard them be considered "carribean".

            Yes, they would technically be a part of Latin America and therefore Latinx by the logic given. But the fact that they don't seem to be, at least in America, is why I feel like the word Latinx isn't functionally different than the word Hispanic.

          • gay [any]
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            4 years ago

            and sometime involves quebec too

            Take that back.

              • gay [any]
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                4 years ago

                I think that if I heard a Quebecois call themselves "latinx" I would be legally required to spit on their face.

    • gay [any]
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      4 years ago

      It's not bad. It just doesn't mean the same thing.