I don't ever want to celebrate someone's death. The fact that we as a species still produce people who's removal from this earth are absolutely worthy of celebrating is gross. The act of celebrating isn't. Don't get me wrong there. But what kind of awful world produces someone who's so awful not only is his murder celebrated pretty much universally and it doesnt even chsnge anything? This is necessary violence but the fact that it is necessary and worth celebrating does illustrate how absolutely fucked and inhumane things are. I hate the ruthlessness I've had to adopt. I hate celebrating death even when I like it. I hope one day every death is an actual tragedy.

  • Bidentime [none/use name]
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    8 days ago

    I honestly see the Uber rich as basically not human. So i don't really have any feelings for the ruling elite when they meet their end. They are other worldly ghouls that live through extracting life from humanity.

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    8 days ago

    I like my ratio but someone should comment that I'm right too

    • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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      8 days ago

      You're right but I also don't see a situation in which things would ever change, at least globally. There will always be awful humans, as only so much negative behavior can be mitigated by environment, education, therapy, and improving material conditions. Even the best existing examples of socialism had/have murderers and people who commit other heinous acts. I get what you're saying about the extent of it though, in that those are more isolated incidents born out of a spontaneous action, whereas this CEO and their actions are chronic/ongoing, relatively common and universally hated yet still tolerated.

  • KhanCipher [none/use name]
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    7 days ago

    The thing here is that the guy murdered here oversaw the company that he was in charge of was effectively in a sense condemning people to death, and as such in a sense he has a lot of blood on his hands whether he knows it or not. Did he personally deny claims that condemned people to death? Certainly not, but anyone who thinks that he had absolutely nothing to do with the circumstances that led to claims being denied that could've saved lives would be a naive fool at best, to a corporate bootlicker at worst.

    In an ideal world, he would be in a courtroom facing a trial, but we're not in that world and quite frankly until we come into an ideal world this is the closest we're going to get to that.

    This is what I said to someone who has the ideal of there should be zero reason to enact the death penalty on anyone, and to someone who also seemed receptive to more leftist thought. Reading it again, I know I definitely libbed it up in places (sadly, I'm just really used to having to really watch what I say), though I was trying to keep it concise and get the point across.

  • Verenata
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    7 days ago

    I get what you're saying and tbh i'm the same but these people were refusing to pay for anesthetic for the full surgery.

    That is holding someone's very life over them 😰

    Feels like karma.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
      hexagon
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      7 days ago

      Yeah. I don't want a system that produces people who deserve to die. My point is I'd like to live in a world where celebrating someone getting gunned down isn't cool and good cause it doesn't produce people that deserve it.

      • Verenata
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        7 days ago

        Yeah same but we don't :/

        sans-shrug

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
          hexagon
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          7 days ago

          Yeah I know. The point of the post is that it sucks that this is the case. Did you read the post? I'm not sad for the guy, I'm missed about living in a system where people are capable of being in a position to be so shitty that they deserve to be gunned down in the street and they profit from it. I'm celebrating and am happy but it does speak to how our current condition fundamentally puts us in that position. It speaks to a deeply fucked up system that it's worth celebrating someone's violent death and it sucks that it's gonna be really cool when a lot of other shitty people die. If America had public Healthcare this asshole would still be sucking air but he also would have never gained the capacity to do enough evil to be worth killing. Capitalism destroys our humanity in a variety of ways and creating people who need to die and their death is worth celebrating is a gruesome and tragic reality of the system and I'm just pointing out that capitalism makes us all worse people.

          • Verenata
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            7 days ago

            I did i did! I haven't even disagreed with you tails-pout

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    7 days ago

    A world where there aren't septic-dreg level of shitty people? How do you even conceptualize that?