this reminds me of when people posts their post-games in kaiserreich and the pro-kaiser people always get mad when the monarchies dissapear and the international still exists, so they just say the posts are overused
yeah its like 1/3 leftist of all types, then 1/3 of pro-west entante people and the rest is divided between the unironic pro-kaiser people and the "ironic" fans of natpop regimes
I think you way underestimate the number of nat-pops in the community lol
Though I will say, the number of people who say they got into syndicalism and then the left as a whole from Kaiserreich is... weird? But kinda cool. So I guess it's a mixed bag.
the natpop fans are mostly just larping chuds, i like to think at most they are only 1/4 of the sub sometimes
the idea of anarcho-syndicalism is not crazy to me (im an ml) at least it could work in the west, the hole totalism thing its like just auth-left in some cases and others its just left fascism/oceania
Yeah totalism as an ideology really doesn't seem to have more depth than how the average PCM poster would describe "auth-left". Literally just "communism is when a dictator throws ppl in gulag"
in some cases it makes sense like in mosley britain and sorel france, but then in the mod ML agentina is totalist, also Mexican calles is too when at worst he was left populist, or the new one that is native south afrika, i think totalism just needs a better name or meaning
to be honest i prefer red alert 2 mental omega for my left alt universe
I don't mean the community's moderators. I mean the mod itself, Kaiserreich, allows wish fulfillment of pretty much any ideological standpoint in-game. This attracts a decent amount of leftists but also a bunch of chuds.
2 of the leftist ideologies, "Totalism," and "Radical Socialism," aren't really coherent in game. Totalism is sometimes some sort of weird nazbol/strasserist thing featuring Oswald Mosely, and sometimes is more Leninist or close to ML (in a world without ML being a thing).
MLs are still a thing in kaiserreich, they used not to be in the past but now the modders have change their views and have include them mostly in argentina
i think they just go by marxists but they say they are influence by lenin so they are MLs in all but name, also totalist tibet is ML with buddist characteristics
in the last update i played you can bring him back from argentina as a 3 star general if you launch a new russian socialist revolution. it's tight as shit
he is, along side Tuckachensky and Zhukov, they are the red army squad, but they return to france for the ww2 or russia for the civil war after helping patagonia
radsoc includes anarchism but syndicalism isnt anarchism in their universe i think. i think syndicalism would be closest to otl communism but the makers dont seem to think that way.
Maybe, maybe not. From what I can tell, The New Order, another popular HOI4 mod, does the opposite. TNO's whole point seems to basically be that fascism is doomed to fail, often through nuclear annihilation.
yeah, but the mods in TNO are controled by both sides centrists that think the US helping nazi germany against the soviets lead by zhukov its a good thing
this reminds me of when people posts their post-games in kaiserreich and the pro-kaiser people always get mad when the monarchies dissapear and the international still exists, so they just say the posts are overused
The Kaiserreich community is one of the biggest dumpster fires I've ever seen. What a horrible place honestly
yeah its like 1/3 leftist of all types, then 1/3 of pro-west entante people and the rest is divided between the unironic pro-kaiser people and the "ironic" fans of natpop regimes
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I think you way underestimate the number of nat-pops in the community lol
Though I will say, the number of people who say they got into syndicalism and then the left as a whole from Kaiserreich is... weird? But kinda cool. So I guess it's a mixed bag.
the natpop fans are mostly just larping chuds, i like to think at most they are only 1/4 of the sub sometimes
the idea of anarcho-syndicalism is not crazy to me (im an ml) at least it could work in the west, the hole totalism thing its like just auth-left in some cases and others its just left fascism/oceania
Yeah totalism as an ideology really doesn't seem to have more depth than how the average PCM poster would describe "auth-left". Literally just "communism is when a dictator throws ppl in gulag"
in some cases it makes sense like in mosley britain and sorel france, but then in the mod ML agentina is totalist, also Mexican calles is too when at worst he was left populist, or the new one that is native south afrika, i think totalism just needs a better name or meaning
to be honest i prefer red alert 2 mental omega for my left alt universe
im excited for comrade yuri to probe my brain into building a proper communist paradise. also turn me into a hot latex wearing bimbo or something
i just need my union of latin american socialist republics to be happy really
Red World has its moments. Most sorts of Leftism get a nice run.
APC runs are insane, Germaine Greer as head of an Anarcho Syndicalist state. Odo from Star Trek as emperor of a Napoleonic Quebec!
UAPR is pretty based
kaiserreich helped radicalize me in general. i'm not kidding. came to chapo afterwards.
i have seen libs becoming syndicalists after reading most of the events of the international nations, so it has cause some good
it's a really immersive way to experience the socialists as the "good guys" in a narrative that's rarely ever seen in media
It suffers from the fact that the mod basically allows wish fulfillment of any ideological standpoint.
Very not true: In my experience he only allows that of fascists. Anyone else gets the boot for "being political"
Like I got a week ban for pointing out that it's kind of silly to be making female soldiers for countries where women are basically property
I don't mean the community's moderators. I mean the mod itself, Kaiserreich, allows wish fulfillment of pretty much any ideological standpoint in-game. This attracts a decent amount of leftists but also a bunch of chuds.
also its really weird that totalism is a combo of fascism and communism.
2 of the leftist ideologies, "Totalism," and "Radical Socialism," aren't really coherent in game. Totalism is sometimes some sort of weird nazbol/strasserist thing featuring Oswald Mosely, and sometimes is more Leninist or close to ML (in a world without ML being a thing).
MLs are still a thing in kaiserreich, they used not to be in the past but now the modders have change their views and have include them mostly in argentina
Are they called MLs though? I thought that term was coined by stalin, who in kaiserreich is just some politician in georgia.
i think they just go by marxists but they say they are influence by lenin so they are MLs in all but name, also totalist tibet is ML with buddist characteristics
i thought he was in argentina lmao
Maybe they changed it? I could have sworn he was a minister in totalist Georgia
in the last update i played you can bring him back from argentina as a 3 star general if you launch a new russian socialist revolution. it's tight as shit
yeah i remember him being an advisor for argentina if the french send aid
georgia is now gonna be a german align and be ruled by a socdem gov, i think the socialist factions are gonna be totalist beria and radsoc mensheviks
he is, along side Tuckachensky and Zhukov, they are the red army squad, but they return to france for the ww2 or russia for the civil war after helping patagonia
radsoc includes anarchism but syndicalism isnt anarchism in their universe i think. i think syndicalism would be closest to otl communism but the makers dont seem to think that way.
some syndicalism is anarchism like in the US but in france its like socialism-syndicalism
Ah, true. Though it would never have gotten so popular if it didn't.
Maybe, maybe not. From what I can tell, The New Order, another popular HOI4 mod, does the opposite. TNO's whole point seems to basically be that fascism is doomed to fail, often through nuclear annihilation.
yeah, but the mods in TNO are controled by both sides centrists that think the US helping nazi germany against the soviets lead by zhukov its a good thing
I'm not as active in that community, but yeah I've heard the mods are like that.
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