• Jorick [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The description is so moronic. It's literally the gommunism no food meme, but taken to 11. Like, there are so many deaths from famines, while completely ignoring a world government would share the fucking food since there is enough for everyone, and industrialization could wait (no capitalist power next door to kick your ass). Also the revolt of the liberals, killing 45M people; to which I say : HOLY FUCKING BASED.

    Btw, if you're good at editing, just fix the description, and post it back here, so we can all spam it to liberal subs.

    • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Sadly I am not, someone should totally do that though

      and add more ASSRs in Africa ffs

        • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Like there isn't even an Amazonian ASSR ffs what kind of circus show is this

          • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            yeah, also no mapuche assr in argentina, also no assr´s in colombia either they have a bunch of indigenous communities, also just one assr in cental america, i dont like the maya republic, they look like a mostly maya state when in reality southern mexico and guatemala have more indigenous peoples than just the maya, it should either be assr between mexico and central america or it should have internal assr's, mexico should have more assr's in the north, and that about it

            i hope you get your map community

  • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    this reminds me of when people posts their post-games in kaiserreich and the pro-kaiser people always get mad when the monarchies dissapear and the international still exists, so they just say the posts are overused

    • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      The Kaiserreich community is one of the biggest dumpster fires I've ever seen. What a horrible place honestly

      • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        yeah its like 1/3 leftist of all types, then 1/3 of pro-west entante people and the rest is divided between the unironic pro-kaiser people and the "ironic" fans of natpop regimes

        • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          """""""ironic""""""""

          I think you way underestimate the number of nat-pops in the community lol

          Though I will say, the number of people who say they got into syndicalism and then the left as a whole from Kaiserreich is... weird? But kinda cool. So I guess it's a mixed bag.

          • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            the natpop fans are mostly just larping chuds, i like to think at most they are only 1/4 of the sub sometimes

            the idea of anarcho-syndicalism is not crazy to me (im an ml) at least it could work in the west, the hole totalism thing its like just auth-left in some cases and others its just left fascism/oceania

            • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah totalism as an ideology really doesn't seem to have more depth than how the average PCM poster would describe "auth-left". Literally just "communism is when a dictator throws ppl in gulag"

              • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                in some cases it makes sense like in mosley britain and sorel france, but then in the mod ML agentina is totalist, also Mexican calles is too when at worst he was left populist, or the new one that is native south afrika, i think totalism just needs a better name or meaning

                to be honest i prefer red alert 2 mental omega for my left alt universe

                • kristina [she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  im excited for comrade yuri to probe my brain into building a proper communist paradise. also turn me into a hot latex wearing bimbo or something

                • Mardoniush [she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  Red World has its moments. Most sorts of Leftism get a nice run.

                  APC runs are insane, Germaine Greer as head of an Anarcho Syndicalist state. Odo from Star Trek as emperor of a Napoleonic Quebec!

          • Des [she/her, they/them]
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            4 years ago

            kaiserreich helped radicalize me in general. i'm not kidding. came to chapo afterwards.

            • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              i have seen libs becoming syndicalists after reading most of the events of the international nations, so it has cause some good

              • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                4 years ago

                it's a really immersive way to experience the socialists as the "good guys" in a narrative that's rarely ever seen in media

      • NotARobot [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        It suffers from the fact that the mod basically allows wish fulfillment of any ideological standpoint.

        • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Very not true: In my experience he only allows that of fascists. Anyone else gets the boot for "being political"

          Like I got a week ban for pointing out that it's kind of silly to be making female soldiers for countries where women are basically property

          • NotARobot [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            I don't mean the community's moderators. I mean the mod itself, Kaiserreich, allows wish fulfillment of pretty much any ideological standpoint in-game. This attracts a decent amount of leftists but also a bunch of chuds.

            • kristina [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              also its really weird that totalism is a combo of fascism and communism.

              • NotARobot [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                2 of the leftist ideologies, "Totalism," and "Radical Socialism," aren't really coherent in game. Totalism is sometimes some sort of weird nazbol/strasserist thing featuring Oswald Mosely, and sometimes is more Leninist or close to ML (in a world without ML being a thing).

                • kristina [she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  radsoc includes anarchism but syndicalism isnt anarchism in their universe i think. i think syndicalism would be closest to otl communism but the makers dont seem to think that way.

                  • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    some syndicalism is anarchism like in the US but in france its like socialism-syndicalism

                • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  MLs are still a thing in kaiserreich, they used not to be in the past but now the modders have change their views and have include them mostly in argentina

                  • NotARobot [she/her]
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                    4 years ago

                    Are they called MLs though? I thought that term was coined by stalin, who in kaiserreich is just some politician in georgia.

                    • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      i think they just go by marxists but they say they are influence by lenin so they are MLs in all but name, also totalist tibet is ML with buddist characteristics

                      • NotARobot [she/her]
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                        4 years ago

                        Maybe they changed it? I could have sworn he was a minister in totalist Georgia

                        • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                          4 years ago

                          in the last update i played you can bring him back from argentina as a 3 star general if you launch a new russian socialist revolution. it's tight as shit

                        • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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                          4 years ago

                          georgia is now gonna be a german align and be ruled by a socdem gov, i think the socialist factions are gonna be totalist beria and radsoc mensheviks

                      • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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                        4 years ago

                        he is, along side Tuckachensky and Zhukov, they are the red army squad, but they return to france for the ww2 or russia for the civil war after helping patagonia

            • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              Ah, true. Though it would never have gotten so popular if it didn't.

              • NotARobot [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                Maybe, maybe not. From what I can tell, The New Order, another popular HOI4 mod, does the opposite. TNO's whole point seems to basically be that fascism is doomed to fail, often through nuclear annihilation.

                • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  yeah, but the mods in TNO are controled by both sides centrists that think the US helping nazi germany against the soviets lead by zhukov its a good thing

  • regul [any]
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    4 years ago

    Leninderry

    Also get a load of all the Australian cities' names.

    • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      honestly it seems like a pretty decent idea to give American POC some self determination, though I'm open to being educated on the matter

      • Enzo [he/him,use name]
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        4 years ago

        i mean im in no place to educate people on it but my first thought was less black independence and more segregation

        • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          I guess it could be read like that, but I see a lot of alt-history maps where that region of the US goes communist and the black-belt is given autonomy more as a means of giving black people self-governance than segregation. I'm all for black self-governance, it's an alt-history idea gone far too untapped.

        • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          yeah an independent afrikan american republic would better plus the independent native communes too, i guess the point here is that they have a decentralise ssr with a lot of autonomies

          • kristina [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            ive also heard talk of not tying it to land and instead just giving people access to government structures regardless of location. e.g. there'd be an indigenous congress that works in tandem with the national congress.

            im really curious about how itd actually turn out, i feel like the only way to get that sort of idea is to poll black and indigenous leftists on what the idea is and synthesize the overall opinion.

        • rabbitmince [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          It ain't great, and I wouldn't do it. But it's not too werid for the Soviet state. See: Jewish Oblast.

          • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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            4 years ago

            imagine being one of those guys who think, yeah the jewish oblast was a terrific idea, let's just push millions of people to the edge of the continent, great stuff

      • modsarefascist [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        it'd only work in areas where mostly black people are in a majority, which is actually pretty small in the US. The only way this could work that sounds feasible is heavily encourage (if not force, ugh) black americans to move there, which has so so soooo many problems.

        • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Maybe it's a special region where districts are drawn both for white and black voters and they kind of vote in seperate but overlapping constituancies, like how New Zealand has the thing where Mauri vote for their own representatives with their own districts?

          Idk, that might not even be a good idea. It's safe to say that not much on this map was well thought out, but if it could work I'd really like an african american autonomous region.

          • modsarefascist [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I've never heard of that Maori system, I'd have to learn more but that sounds interesting. Also sounds like segregation but if they make it work I'd like to know how, I'll check it out later. Thx

            • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_electorates

              It sure uh... sounds segregationy, so I definately get how it comes off as a bit suspicious, but honestly it sounds like a good way to give different, traditionally at-odds ethnic groups equal representation without cramming them into the same districts and making them compete with each other. So instead of constituancies being split between racist southern whites and PoC trying to turf each other out, there's an understanding that all the white people will get to vote for their candidates, and the black people will vote for theirs, and both groups will get to send delegations without having to directly compete. And maybe that's all that makes the Black Belt ASSR special is that it has that system.

              Again idk. I feel like I'm walking on a knife's edge of accidentially saying some yikes shit so I'm gonna leave it at that unless someone has a more informed point of view to express

    • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      It was just a bunch of people holding signs referencing Harry Potter and Game of Thrones

  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What could have been, if the Socdems didn’t kill Rosa, and if Khrushchev and Mao didn’t split the party.

    • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      -50 social credit points for u

      (honestly though Beria was pretty shitty afaik)

          • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            if i had time travel i would tell molotov to carry a colt when he confronts the Corn Lord in the supreme soviet and just unload 6 shots on his chest

            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              From alcoholism. They tried to force him onto fruit juice but he bribed someone to spike it. Fucking tragic, but addiction treatment was still in its infancy and the SU, unfortunately wasn't great yet.

        • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          In this timeline every man woman and child has a personal bunker

          • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            did you see hoxha town in alaska and leninopolis and marxburgo in brazil this is a based timeline

  • Krem [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This is so obviously made by a USian, as north america needs to be split into bullshit like “Great lakes" and "Dixie" (Where's "Cascadia" and "Denali" SSRs?) while lumping the arab paninsula or east africa together, and the rest of the world gets a very casual browsing of "Native populations" or "Local language". Anyway they did make a "Hakka aSSR" which by coincidence coincides with the first Chinese SSR in actual history. Also Isan should belong to the Lao SSR and not Thai

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      "Aboriginal SSR" Located entirely in NW Aus Like jfc 5 min reading would tell you how stupid that sounds.

    • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      yeah occidentalian ssr just look wrong, also im not a fan of mexico borders, as for the arab peninsula the levant and arabia should be 2 countries, ia big fan of the andenian ssr tho

  • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    If you like maps and wanna see a community to post them please go here and annoy the admins about it thank u

    https://hexbear.net/post/40472/comment/343390

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This but don't deport jews to siberia and why did Mexico stop at reclaiming san diego

    • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      im fine if mexico doesnt reclaim what we lost in the mex-us war, i just dont want the borders to be so ugly

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Argentina annexed Uruguay. Finally the Province is ours again