The golden age of Youtube was 2010-2013, and the average video length was around 10 minutes.

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      eh, I'm not sure I'd count it as her worst. it wasn't as ambitious of a production but she at least knew who she was talking to for once. I guess feel like the biggest miss on it was not getting further into the "safe" state protest vote options but that discussion alone probably could have gone 30m.

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          X to doubt.... There are plenty of people who are saying what tabby was saying, I'm not even sure if I want to vote for Biden or Howie... I think it'd be more accurate to say that she's not giving any of the people she was talking to any new information but the people she was talking to definitely exist.

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    Videos longer than 10 minutes are pretty good if you're actually trying to educate and it isn't just for the sake of entertainment. Vids that try to sum up theory or philosophy in under 10 mins are fucking ass (looking at you school of life).

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        And completely misdefining the mind-body problem on purpose. To them, philosophy is only for selling their lifestyle brand.

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      I strongly disagree. Gravel Institute is killing it and I have been following Leaflets for a while now and think the format is fantastic.

      Leaflets are and have always been an extremely valuable method of disseminating information and should not be considered "ass". The modern version of a leaflet in the digital space is a 3-5minute video. This format should be replicated massively to be quite honest it's extremely good when it's made by someone actually trying to make something of good quality.

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    The golden age of Youtube was 2010-2013, and the average video length was around 10 minutes.

    Completely false, when I see a notification for something like a fresh new 90 minute Best of the Worst I know my entire evening is saved

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      4 years ago

      There is a very distinct chapo-redlettermedia fan overlap that I've always been curious about. The shows have similar vibes, even though the subject matter and the people (and the politics, I think) are quite different.

      • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I got into DoNotEat's stuff because he sounded like Mr. Plinkett. I was shocked to find out he was so young. Rocz sounds like a cranky old ML.

        • marvelous [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          The way he talks and his level of knowledge made me think he was a 65 yo city planner/architect that has become completely jaded.

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            4 years ago

            I was always amazed by him, that an elderly person can manage to learn and play competently Cities Skylines, making mods, using it to spread his knowledge, and all that. Then I found out he is fucking few years younger than me

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        Both Chapo and RLM have a midwestern cynicism to them, which makes total sense with RLM (a little less sense from Chapo given where Will's from). I also don't think RLM's rightwing as some people have thought. The only reasons I've really seen people say that are cause they clearly don't give a shit about identity politics and because Rich Evans may have said some dumb things on stream.

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      4 years ago

      Well because that's actually a full 90 minutes of entertaining content you hack fraud.

  • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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    I'm of the opinion that a video of any length can be ideal, it just has to be suited to its contents. For example: ProZD (everyone look him up, he's amazing) has short as shit videos. Like, 5-40 seconds. And they're spectacular. Cracking the Cryptic has half hour videos, that sometimes stretch to an hour if the puzzle is really fucking hard. Also ideal. (Although I'll be honest, I watch on 1.5 speed.) For long videos, my examples are all breadtube, it's true, but Hbomb (and, less awesomely PhilosophyTube) are good. Not everything they produce, obviously, there's the occasional dud, but I'd rather a 2 hour Hbomb video than most movies, so, you know, it is what it is.

    • Wisp [fae/faer, any]
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      Wait people actually watch cracking the cryptic instead of ignoring the videos and clicking the links to the puzzles?

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    What they'll tell you: it's more researched, they have lots to say on a subject, they have so much to disprove, etc.

    The material truth: They want to maximize the number of ads so they can earn more money, hiring an editor to cut down on dead air or to edit at all is too expensive and is very boring/awful to do compared to making the next video (some breadtube content is just like a 2+ hour long casual conversation between friends with dead air and stuttering included).

  • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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    Counter Point: Best of the Worst is some of the funniest shit on YT and it’s often over an hour long.

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      RLM has all the makings of being a shitty reactionary Youtube channel on paper but they completely subvert it by just making good content instead.

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    4 years ago

    like i think that most of them are not long enough give me a shaun two hours videos just talking about how the bell curve is bullshit

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      My attention span has been gradually dying the older I get, and yet somehow I have watched a bunch of several-hours-long breadtube documentaries/essays/analyses multiple times each.

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    4 years ago

    I like what some Breadtubers have done with the longer videos purely because they're treading new artistic ground with the platform. For the last two hundred years or so there's been an uneasy alliance between artists and left-wing politics and I find it fascinating; unfortunately for most of them their art is better than their politics, but I'd rather them there than otherwise.

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    Algorithms favor longer videos apparently. How do we push back against Breadtube? I'm glad they make videos that aren't right wing shit like the rest of youtube and they helped my brother not fall for the right wing propaganda Youtube puts out. Do we just wait for a charismatic person who doesn't do liberalism?

    • bewts [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I think the algorithm used to favor longer videos more when Lets Play videos were in their heyday... now I believe 10-15 minutes is the sweet spot. If you're established you can do whatever you want however.

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    4 years ago

    Nowadays Im looking for really long videos, few hours each, usually put them when playing some chill game, preferably some kind of city buildng, or CKIII recently. Recently I got in into Resident Evil lore/retrospective videos, which is pretty fun. Noah Caldwell-Gervais was my favouite go to channel but I've already watched everything.