she even liked the comment lmao

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    I think it's a mistake to think Trump's incompetence has meaningfully abated imperialism. Bolivia did have a coup, even if they caved now. Venezuela got attempted, and god knows what else the CIA has been up to. Trump nearly started a war with Iran, directly struck Assad, held up the campaigns throughout Africa, supports the Saudis in Yemen....

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      I think it’s a mistake to think Trump’s incompetence has meaningfully abated imperialism. Bolivia did have a coup, even if they caved now. Venezuela got attempted, and god knows what else the CIA has been up to. Trump nearly started a war with Iran, directly struck Assad, held up the campaigns throughout Africa, supports the Saudis in Yemen…

      Those things would've happened regardless of president. Venezuela got attempted, but we have sitting officials complaining that Trump 'dropped the ball' on that. Bolivia's coup, too, was a failure in that the US did not somewhat mobilize to shut things down. I am not saying he's an anti-imperialist--he's still an imperialist, 100%--but in a number of cases, his failures have inadvertently saved lives.

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        if these things would've happened regardless of president, Trump did not meaningfully impact it.

        Venezuela was such a dumb plan the most competent and sinister US admin couldn't have saved it. But say it was, Trump's incompetence made Venezuela and Bolivia not work. His incompetence also made the close call with Iran happen. The military claims they didn't want him to kill Soleimani, but he did and massively escalated tensions. Was that inadvertently saving lives?

        • machiavellianRecluse [none/use name]
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          The military claims they didn’t want him to kill Soleimani, but he did and massively escalated tensions. Was that inadvertently saving lives?

          Isn't the fact that Trump wants to do things that the military doesn't want him to mean that he is incompetent when it comes to imperialism?

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              To me it seems he has done less "harm" than Obama in terms of foreign policy. Having said that I suppose we are both in agreement that the US empire needs to be dismantled so the only point of contention is strategy.

              FWIW I don't think campaigning for Trump is the right strategy. Building organizational capacity to challenge/destroy/take-over the Democratic party is. I just think that "the scenario where Trump wins" is probably better for other countries than the "scenario where Biden wins". But this opinion in and of itself is highly inconsequential and I would be glad if all of these people face even 1% of the misery that they have spread in the world.