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ok gang I'm thinking of leading a wretched of the earth book club in January and after that we do a trinity of fundamentals thoughts?

  • homhom9000 [she/her]
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    5 days ago

    Is there any other group of people, besides white people, who put a lot of time and effort in tools that cause mass death? I'm mediocre on history, but were/are there any other group of people that's even as close to as destructive? I guess the Japanese could be one.

    Also a genuine question. I want to be correct

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 days ago

      Idk... well, there was Genghis Khan whose ravaging Mongol Empire army may've indirectly killed 37.5-60 million people, judging from the 700 million tons of carbon wiped out of this map.

      If we're talkin' recently, you could look at Pakistan's U.S-backed war against the newly-indepedent Bangladesh and the Second Congo War in the DRC... (0.300 - 3 million, in their genocide against Bengalis over one year, and 5.4 million dead in the Congo)

      If we want to talk about "what not to do", regarding constructing socialism, we could talk about Khmer Rouge Cambodia's Killing Fields and DERG Ethiopia's famine in 1983 (0.165 to 4 million, depending on talking to Noam Chomsky or a western scholar) and (Up to 1 million, according to western scholar)

      Then again, I may be talking from liberal brainworms

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        You talking about lobbing dead things into castles during sieges? Not to excuse the Mongols, but everyone was doing that the moment fortified cities and catapults became a thing. I don't know if the Mongols invented it or learned it from someone else. Could also be a case of convergent evolution. Torching crop fields and sowing them with salt was another tactic used everywhere to limit enemies ability to wage war.

        I'd be curious to know if this stuff did start with the Mongols. They were known for being really good at fucking up people's shit.

        • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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          5 days ago

          lobbing dead things into castles im not sure if the mongols invented it, but they did invented the a unique way to make poison arrows by mixing poop and rotten food in their quivers so that their arrows would be cover by deadly infections was were sure dead to anyone struck by them and in some cases cause a plague

          also they poison waterways but thats something people before them had done before

          • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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            5 days ago

            Ah I didn't know about the poop quivers. Poison darts have been a thing for a long time. I don't know when the use of poison dart frogs started in South America.