Eat my poop paramount executives. That show could have gone for another 5 with ease. I'm gonna miss all my space guys.
Always gotta cancel the good shows, probably to get more money for Yellowstone spin-offs
it felt a little bit cartoony at times; but the messages it carried was 110% spot on with roddenberry's vision for humanity.
i keep crying when i watch this show now because of it's ending and what it represents for star trek fandom so i bet it's going to take a week for me to get through the last episode without stopping for tear break. lol
1883 was chuddy as hell, but damn if it wasn't well-produced. Cant vouch for the others thougb.
tbh i prefer shows end when they're good rather than be dragged out six seasons too long as a hollow shell of its former self
Same, but at the 10 half hour episode per sesson pace they had, 5 more would just be 100 episodes. The whole series has less run time than the first 2 seasons of tng. Even before it was canceled and they had to turn an almost finished season into a final season the lack of room to breath by having so few episodes per season had been my only real complaint. 15-20 episodes were really needed. It'd a quasi episodic show where bits and pieces of a finale plot are slowly developed, it has a lot of character stuff and also it's a comedy so it needs room for jokes.
We never got even close to adequate T'Lyn. I never make anime analogies but I deeply deeply love Nichijou and T'Lyn had huge Mai energy and that really really could have gone places. Gabrielle Nuez also totally totally crushed playing a Vulcan which isn't something many actors can do as we've seen a few times in trek. I'd say nemoy, Lenard. Tim Russ and her are the 3 that manage to absolutely nail it. T'Pol got there but it was more the writing getting in the way than Jolene Blaylock, she had it but she wasn't allowed to use it as well. Doing that well with comedy is, as someone who is as dry as the surface of the sun verbally, I'm German level deadpan, she is amazing at making a joke hit just a fraction of a second later than it would if delivered by another character. The science besties bit made me cry. The whole ending did. I want star trek to be real super badly and also wanna be there now plz. The amount that I am built for a military structure that doesn't often (ostensibly) do combat appeals so damn hard. My intrinsic desire to just kinda wander in one direction until I see something I haven't seen before and ability to boss people around while not being a dick a out it would hqfe me in a captains seat in no time. In a Hexbear gets Galaxy Quested scenario I'm calling captain rn
You're totally right. She was supposed to be a heated Vulcan and she played it more level than most and the writing NAILED Vulcan snark. Excellent character, excellent voice acting.
Edit: dibs on security officer
Edit: shit or engineering
Edit: shit or science
Edit: shit I just want to be in FALGSC
i'm VERY glad LD canonized its fair share of good optimistic things and a little wackiness for the franchise's future, i want to see other shows build off from that because what usually happens is that the only fucking thing that new trek canonizes are horrible tragedies and ''THE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO EXPLODE'' plot-lines and then the next star trek show needs to build off of that and then nothing nice ever gets done! it's very nice to see a change of pace!
changing the topic back to LD, Ransom is a surprisingly competent officer (and now captain).
At least the last episode was solid. Too bad, though, this was the best trek in a long time.
It was a good last episode. It was clearly a sesson finale changed into a series finale but they pulled it off as best as possible considering. I guess since it's over i can say even with only 50 episodes lower decks is my number 3 trek series. TOS is down to 4 with ds9 eternally at 1 and tng being lucky lower decks got canceled. I even said to other nerds around season 2 of LD that if it lasted long enough at even season 2 pace it could beat next gen. The show itself just kept getting better after and was pretty sure it would bypass tng, which is nuts, but it took as many episodes as there are in lower decks for tng to even get good, but sometimes a quantity of decent quality balanced with about the same amount of really good episodes just kinda wins. Ld does best it for consistency but when you only have 50 damn episodes it's hard to compare to 178 for tng. It still gave tng a run for it's money and even just a season 6 where they knew going in it was the last one could have gotten it there for me.
Should I watch this having never experienced any other Star Trek?
It's kind of built on easter eggs and references to previous shows
But, the bones of the show are excellent character work
So yeah, you could probably start with Lower Decks and have a decent time
Nope. It's super referential.
Release order as always is best pracrice but there is so much of it and the original series is very 60s so mileage can vary on that. If you don't wanna do release order start with tng and know the first 2 seasons kinda suck but watch them anyway. There's some good shit here and there and also bad episodes are part of the stsr trek experience. Aside from Code of Honor which is racist af, most early tng is either just okay or good bad but with clearly earnest good intents, there is stuff that pays off later and it's not THHHAAAAT bad for the most part, but it really hits it's stride in the third season and by the time that's half way through you're looking at mostly gold. I'd just watch tng the whole way, either during that or after hit up some TOS, there's many best episode lists, I'd watch all of a best episode list and then like 3 random ones from each season if you don't wanna watch the whole thing. There's so.e essentials and it's good to know the characters before watching all the tos movies which is next. After that you're ready for the best one, ds9. Ds9 is the peak. When you're done with that you're already a trekkie and don't need my wisdom anymore
I've seen TNG and am just entering season 3 of DS9. I was planning on doing Lower Decks next, but now you got me wondering if I should watch some others before I jump ahead. Voyager is a possibility. I liked season 1 of Picard, hated season 2, and may or may not just finish the damn thing to finish it. May watch ToS or just do Wrath if Khan and call it a day. May do Discovery
Are these others worth bothering with? I watched some eps of Voyager back in the day and managed to like it well enough when Neelix wasn't on screen.
The tos classics should be watched and you should at least watch the episode space seed prior to wrath of khan cause it'd where khan is first introduced. I'd also watch sooome tos cause it's gonna pay off a bit in ds9, if you're 3 seasons in then you should watch Tos the trouble with tribbles. The tos movies also fucking rule aside from 5 which is funny bad. LD has references for the whole series so if you don't wanna miss out on every gag watch it last but I'd say be familiar with tos, the tos movies, tng, ds9 and maybe so.e voyager and enterprise to get everything. There animated series references here, they aren't all essential, basically none are but I'd at lest finish off ds9 and get some essential tos episodes and movie going first. I never watched it as a non nerd and I think lower decks works okay otherwise but I don't have the perspective to know. I do know there are lots of really really deep backtou f gsgs
I've seen Trouble with Tribbles and that one episode where the crew splits into good and evil counterparts
Space Seed introduces Kahn. City on the Edge of Forever is unanimously the best. Amok time is crucial, I'd just watch tos stsr to finish a d be patient cause otherwise you'd miss out on amazing crap like shore leave. I would stop ds9 to watch the tos movies though. The tos movies rule.
TOS is quite a slog by modern TV standards, but if you can tough it out with it in the background for a while you'll absorb enough to get the extreme number of references Lower Decks makes to it.
I didn't wanna comment too hard there cause I love old times slow as fuck pacing. If anything it works better now cause you can check yr phone and not miss much
Wonder if the Animator's strike had anything to do with the finishing of this. Whole damn industry has lost its mind ovet animation
Maybe but there was a live actors and writers strke just before. So everyone had a strike, there's no reason to target one industry that I know about
