This isn't this is someone failing to articulate any coherent thoughts. There isn't some kind of inscrutable and esoteric point that she's building but it's hard to understand, this is just very annoying vibes-based rambling. I hate these posts (as in the OOP you're cool OP), you're laying it on so thick for everyone to see that you change your worldview based on nothing but vibes and can't articulate why you believe in one thing or another. I understand that faith, by its nature, is something that can't be explained via some kind of rigorous scientific process, but it would help if she could at least connect ideas together. Art is what God is? What does that have to do with Christianity? If she needs some higher calling to supercede addiction in her mind, like the AA program, why wasn't her previous Deist worldview sufficient?
I seriously have so little respect for this brand of woo-woo pseudointellectualism. It's even worse than the usual tech bro evidence-light rants about AI coming to save the world, because as much as those are deranged and incorrect, they're at least tied to falsifiable claims and real world phenomena. When these nerds get talking about philosophy it's incredibly frustrating even to me, someone whose knowledge of philosophy is embarrassingly surface level.
I quit smoking by chewing that expensive nicotine gum. Then I was addicted to that for 3 more years. I finally quit the gum when covid got us all locked down to our homes so I could finally not have to face anyone while I went through the emotional rollercoaster that is breaking an addiction.
From what I understand after not going to any AA or NA shit, is that a lot of people find a framework for endurance when they hand responsibility for everything over to a "higher power" that has more control over everything than they will ever hope to have over themselves. From there I guess it's just a few cognitive re-wirings away from "I don't need this, I don't want this, and I have a reason to trust that my suffering will end and that things will get better" (the god part constituting that "reason" ironic when it is in fact an inversion of reason, ie faith. But the mind doesn't really know the difference.)
I think Grimes here is toying with becoming some sort of Christian and is using the vape thing as an excuse to explain it to her fanbase. Lotta weirdos doin tradcath or return to roots larp shit lately, including the rich.
Congrats on beating nicotine. I too stopped a 14-year smoking habit during COVID. I still get a craving randomly out of the blue but I just let it pass over and through me. God not involved.
congrats to you too!
it was always an idea i kicked around... do i use up all my vacation time to just stay home and hide in a hole for 2 weeks and pray that is enough time to stop from wanting to strangle somebody while i wean off, or do i just continue to chew the gum and rot my face?
luckily it worked out in the weirdest of ways
I quit nicotine after a layoff while stuck at home, realizing nicotine was a way of coping with work and/or quitting would have made me go through a phase of being weird and unbearable by office standards.
Amazing how not having a tolerate an office means I no longer develop harmful addictions.
It's the arrogance of it that pisses me off. There's millennia of writing by hundreds of people smarter than anyone currently alive. They did us all a favor and recorded their ideas for us to study. They were followed by people who explained those ideas to make them even easier for us to understand.
And then there's people like this, who ignore what others had to say, thinking they're the first person to have some of these thoughts. They ignore the rest of human knowledge due to their own arrogance. They have such high opinions of themselves, they believe in whatever bullshit they can concoct. It's pure ego. It's "I'm too cool for school and I know this because I'm smarter than all my teachers. I'm street smart, too (unlike those nerds who get all their 'knowledge' from books)."
I completely disagree with "hundreds of people smarter than anyone currently alive". There are absolutely people out there who are as smart or likely smarter than the recorded 'great thinkers' of history. Average human intelligence likely hasn't demonstrably changed in over 200,000 years.
What is true is that we live in an unprecedented time of access to information, and access to the ideas and histories of those writers and elucidators of those writers, which means there is little to no excuse to not understand the epistemology of these concepts, something that only the most privileged writers would have had access to in the past (outside of, of course having to pay for access to modern scholarship on topics, which is a bane to any kind of academic progress).
As you said though, ultimately for people like Grimes, 'deep thinking' is little more than an ego trip, not an actual exploration of ideology and conceptions and how they may affect your life. It is little more than a word salad.
This isn't
this is someone failing to articulate any coherent thoughts. There isn't some kind of inscrutable and esoteric point that she's building but it's hard to understand, this is just very annoying vibes-based rambling. I hate these posts (as in the OOP you're cool OP), you're laying it on so thick for everyone to see that you change your worldview based on nothing but vibes and can't articulate why you believe in one thing or another. I understand that faith, by its nature, is something that can't be explained via some kind of rigorous scientific process, but it would help if she could at least connect ideas together. Art is what God is? What does that have to do with Christianity? If she needs some higher calling to supercede addiction in her mind, like the AA program, why wasn't her previous Deist worldview sufficient?
I seriously have so little respect for this brand of woo-woo pseudointellectualism. It's even worse than the usual tech bro evidence-light rants about AI coming to save the world, because as much as those are deranged and incorrect, they're at least tied to falsifiable claims and real world phenomena. When these nerds get talking about philosophy it's incredibly frustrating even to me, someone whose knowledge of philosophy is embarrassingly surface level.
I quit smoking by chewing that expensive nicotine gum. Then I was addicted to that for 3 more years. I finally quit the gum when covid got us all locked down to our homes so I could finally not have to face anyone while I went through the emotional rollercoaster that is breaking an addiction.
god did not help one bit.
Maybe not, but that really has nothing to do with the fact that lots of people find the strength to overcome addiction through faith.
i fail to see how going to church is going to get anyone off of nicotine, but if it works more power to anyone
Yeah I don't think it matters if it makes sense to you, you don't have to have an opinion on it
yeah, i don't really care about your opinion on it either, and never really asked for it in the first place
From what I understand after not going to any AA or NA shit, is that a lot of people find a framework for endurance when they hand responsibility for everything over to a "higher power" that has more control over everything than they will ever hope to have over themselves. From there I guess it's just a few cognitive re-wirings away from "I don't need this, I don't want this, and I have a reason to trust that my suffering will end and that things will get better" (the god part constituting that "reason" ironic when it is in fact an inversion of reason, ie faith. But the mind doesn't really know the difference.)
I think Grimes here is toying with becoming some sort of Christian and is using the vape thing as an excuse to explain it to her fanbase. Lotta weirdos doin tradcath or return to roots larp shit lately, including the rich.
tbh all of that's just to get people in the door, the core of twelve step is peer support.
turns out when you help other people work out their addiction problems it's a powerful disincentive to indulge your own addiction, who knew
Congrats on beating nicotine. I too stopped a 14-year smoking habit during COVID. I still get a craving randomly out of the blue but I just let it pass over and through me. God not involved.
congrats to you too!
it was always an idea i kicked around... do i use up all my vacation time to just stay home and hide in a hole for 2 weeks and pray that is enough time to stop from wanting to strangle somebody while i wean off, or do i just continue to chew the gum and rot my face?
luckily it worked out in the weirdest of ways
I quit nicotine after a layoff while stuck at home, realizing nicotine was a way of coping with work and/or quitting would have made me go through a phase of being weird and unbearable by office standards.
Amazing how not having a tolerate an office means I no longer develop harmful addictions.
It's the arrogance of it that pisses me off. There's millennia of writing by hundreds of people smarter than anyone currently alive. They did us all a favor and recorded their ideas for us to study. They were followed by people who explained those ideas to make them even easier for us to understand.
And then there's people like this, who ignore what others had to say, thinking they're the first person to have some of these thoughts. They ignore the rest of human knowledge due to their own arrogance. They have such high opinions of themselves, they believe in whatever bullshit they can concoct. It's pure ego. It's "I'm too cool for school and I know this because I'm smarter than all my teachers. I'm street smart, too (unlike those nerds who get all their 'knowledge' from books)."
I completely disagree with "hundreds of people smarter than anyone currently alive". There are absolutely people out there who are as smart or likely smarter than the recorded 'great thinkers' of history. Average human intelligence likely hasn't demonstrably changed in over 200,000 years.
What is true is that we live in an unprecedented time of access to information, and access to the ideas and histories of those writers and elucidators of those writers, which means there is little to no excuse to not understand the epistemology of these concepts, something that only the most privileged writers would have had access to in the past (outside of, of course having to pay for access to modern scholarship on topics, which is a bane to any kind of academic progress).
As you said though, ultimately for people like Grimes, 'deep thinking' is little more than an ego trip, not an actual exploration of ideology and conceptions and how they may affect your life. It is little more than a word salad.
my wigga I thought of all those ideas without ever opening a philosophy book