The epitome of 
This isn't
this is someone failing to articulate any coherent thoughts. There isn't some kind of inscrutable and esoteric point that she's building but it's hard to understand, this is just very annoying vibes-based rambling. I hate these posts (as in the OOP you're cool OP), you're laying it on so thick for everyone to see that you change your worldview based on nothing but vibes and can't articulate why you believe in one thing or another. I understand that faith, by its nature, is something that can't be explained via some kind of rigorous scientific process, but it would help if she could at least connect ideas together. Art is what God is? What does that have to do with Christianity? If she needs some higher calling to supercede addiction in her mind, like the AA program, why wasn't her previous Deist worldview sufficient?I seriously have so little respect for this brand of woo-woo pseudointellectualism. It's even worse than the usual tech bro evidence-light rants about AI coming to save the world, because as much as those are deranged and incorrect, they're at least tied to falsifiable claims and real world phenomena. When these nerds get talking about philosophy it's incredibly frustrating even to me, someone whose knowledge of philosophy is embarrassingly surface level.
I quit smoking by chewing that expensive nicotine gum. Then I was addicted to that for 3 more years. I finally quit the gum when covid got us all locked down to our homes so I could finally not have to face anyone while I went through the emotional rollercoaster that is breaking an addiction.
god did not help one bit.
Maybe not, but that really has nothing to do with the fact that lots of people find the strength to overcome addiction through faith.
i fail to see how going to church is going to get anyone off of nicotine, but if it works more power to anyone
Yeah I don't think it matters if it makes sense to you, you don't have to have an opinion on it
yeah, i don't really care about your opinion on it either, and never really asked for it in the first place
From what I understand after not going to any AA or NA shit, is that a lot of people find a framework for endurance when they hand responsibility for everything over to a "higher power" that has more control over everything than they will ever hope to have over themselves. From there I guess it's just a few cognitive re-wirings away from "I don't need this, I don't want this, and I have a reason to trust that my suffering will end and that things will get better" (the god part constituting that "reason" ironic when it is in fact an inversion of reason, ie faith. But the mind doesn't really know the difference.)
I think Grimes here is toying with becoming some sort of Christian and is using the vape thing as an excuse to explain it to her fanbase. Lotta weirdos doin tradcath or return to roots larp shit lately, including the rich.
tbh all of that's just to get people in the door, the core of twelve step is peer support.
turns out when you help other people work out their addiction problems it's a powerful disincentive to indulge your own addiction, who knew
Congrats on beating nicotine. I too stopped a 14-year smoking habit during COVID. I still get a craving randomly out of the blue but I just let it pass over and through me. God not involved.
congrats to you too!
it was always an idea i kicked around... do i use up all my vacation time to just stay home and hide in a hole for 2 weeks and pray that is enough time to stop from wanting to strangle somebody while i wean off, or do i just continue to chew the gum and rot my face?
luckily it worked out in the weirdest of ways
I quit nicotine after a layoff while stuck at home, realizing nicotine was a way of coping with work and/or quitting would have made me go through a phase of being weird and unbearable by office standards.
Amazing how not having a tolerate an office means I no longer develop harmful addictions.
It's the arrogance of it that pisses me off. There's millennia of writing by hundreds of people smarter than anyone currently alive. They did us all a favor and recorded their ideas for us to study. They were followed by people who explained those ideas to make them even easier for us to understand.
And then there's people like this, who ignore what others had to say, thinking they're the first person to have some of these thoughts. They ignore the rest of human knowledge due to their own arrogance. They have such high opinions of themselves, they believe in whatever bullshit they can concoct. It's pure ego. It's "I'm too cool for school and I know this because I'm smarter than all my teachers. I'm street smart, too (unlike those nerds who get all their 'knowledge' from books)."
I completely disagree with "hundreds of people smarter than anyone currently alive". There are absolutely people out there who are as smart or likely smarter than the recorded 'great thinkers' of history. Average human intelligence likely hasn't demonstrably changed in over 200,000 years.
What is true is that we live in an unprecedented time of access to information, and access to the ideas and histories of those writers and elucidators of those writers, which means there is little to no excuse to not understand the epistemology of these concepts, something that only the most privileged writers would have had access to in the past (outside of, of course having to pay for access to modern scholarship on topics, which is a bane to any kind of academic progress).
As you said though, ultimately for people like Grimes, 'deep thinking' is little more than an ego trip, not an actual exploration of ideology and conceptions and how they may affect your life. It is little more than a word salad.
There's millennia of writing by hundreds of people smarter than anyone currently alive.
my wigga I thought of all those ideas without ever opening a philosophy book
you're a fcking millionaire you can literally hire someone to follow you around and slap nicotine out of your mouth lmao
She can literally check into a bougie rehab for something as flippant as vape addiction and get nrt and coaching from a $1,200 a day therapist but instead she's banking on "god". Fucking poor people used to turn to god for help because they were poor and hopeless in their addiction but this brain genius is just too cheap to fork over money for actual help.
If I was god and someone started following my religion because they wanted to quit vaping I'd be like nah that doesn't count
"im getting into christianity"
"so anyways isnt god some esoteric idea that exists in the idea of art?"
in christianity god is literally a being that rules on an etheral heavenly plane and has angels that look like a hallucinogenic fever-dream and can manifest themself in corporeal form if they really want to. like the most fundamental core element of christianity, its defining feature, is that god is real, existed in the form of jesus a real human being, and then died on the cross for your sins and ascended back to their heavenly domain where they rule forevermore
Exactly. Thank you. If she's gonna do this crap actually commit to the bit. God is in art? No, art is divinely inspired! The story you tell yourself is very powerful? Nah dawg, the metanarrative of the history of salvation encompasses all of every event in time, it is the long arc of history; it's not a story you tell yourself. Lock tf in!
existed in the form of jesus a real human being
Forgive my Jewish ignorance but I thought Jesus was the son of god?
(As a Jew I believe Jesus was 100% a real person, whether he was capable of god-like miracles is up for multiple millennia of debate)
The father = god The son = Jesus The Holy Spirit = ??? Archangel Gabriel telling Mary she’s miraculously pregnant with the son of god?
Tri-part god. Holy trinity.
They say he’s part of god, used his power to be born as human as a son of himself and Mary, got nailed to wood by angry Romans, died, shed human mortal form or transformed it into something else and ascended to heaven to be with his other part of itself called god the father as well as another part called the Holy Ghost.
Confused? Good. Centuries of apologetics and no one has been able to explain it with anything more than handwaving and mysterious talk of god being beyond human understanding.
no one has been able to explain it with anything more than handwaving and mysterious talk of god being beyond human understanding.
can't forget comparisons to grass leaves as well!
okay easy explanation is in christianity the holy trinity is 3 beings and one being at the same time because if it was 3 beings then christianity would be worshipping 3 gods and thats against god so it has to be this paradox or something
Whoever vapes my juice has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
"Developing Catholic guilt on purpose to quit vaping" is an incredible bit
Her Mom was a state prosecutor, her Dad was a banker in the biotech business, and she grew up in a very wealthy region of Vancouver attending private schools, that's enough information to make a pretty well educated guess.
Don't worry, if that wasn't bad enough she also has laundered her early career by bragging about living in a slum with addicts for a while. Leaving out the part where her family owned it
She's literally Whitney from the Curse it's actually incredible.
It is so monumentally embarrassing that I am
fixed it.
It’s the English translation of the Hebrew spelling of the abrahamic god’s name.
She dated Elon. For a while. I think they had kids together. Were we expecting some coherent rocket scientist?
I dunno, seems pretty misguided. I mean have you seen Christian heaven? You think all those clouds in eternal paradise are water vapor?
