You know which book I'm mad I had to read in high school? Lord of the Flies. It's barely a novel, it's just a treatise on how the human condition is inherently selfish and violent, and that the only thing that holds us back from mayhem and slaughter is our wonderful systems of laws and the authority figures that enforce them.
And also the number of times the Stanford Prison Experiment has been explained to me as some kind of gospel truth. If this is really how liberals see humanity, some of their behavior starts to make a bit more sense.
I've heard there were a lot of fundamental errors with how the SPE was run and it's dumb to rely on it as a source of anything since it can't be ethically reproduced anyway.
From my understanding, it has been reproduced in more ethical ways and with better attempts at variable control... and lo and behold, they almost always show that people aren't inherently chuds or victims as the original "experiment" implies. It's not exactly rigorous (or leftist) but here's an interesting Vsauce episode where the original is discussed and then they go on to do a similar experiment.
It sucks because Lord of the Flies isn't about how the human condition, it exists to shit on "The Coral Island" and other shitty colonialist boys novels of that era, but rarely is that aspect ever explored in school and instead teachers just focus on how this book about british brats being stuck on an island is actually a representation of all of humanity.
You know which book I'm mad I had to read in high school? Lord of the Flies. It's barely a novel, it's just a treatise on how the human condition is inherently selfish and violent, and that the only thing that holds us back from mayhem and slaughter is our wonderful systems of laws and the authority figures that enforce them.
And also the number of times the Stanford Prison Experiment has been explained to me as some kind of gospel truth. If this is really how liberals see humanity, some of their behavior starts to make a bit more sense.
one time a bunch of kids got abandoned on an island and they practiced communism, including doing all the work for their friend who broke their leg
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-what-happened-when-six-boys-were-shipwrecked-for-15-months
Noooooooo if you leave a bunch of kids on an island they'll literally become kid Hitler! Human nature basic economics vuvuzela
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iynwbDFJuik
I've heard there were a lot of fundamental errors with how the SPE was run and it's dumb to rely on it as a source of anything since it can't be ethically reproduced anyway.
Correct, couldn't really have put it better myself. The only reasonable conclusion you can draw from the SPE is that Philip Zimbardo is a monster.
From my understanding, it has been reproduced in more ethical ways and with better attempts at variable control... and lo and behold, they almost always show that people aren't inherently chuds or victims as the original "experiment" implies. It's not exactly rigorous (or leftist) but here's an interesting Vsauce episode where the original is discussed and then they go on to do a similar experiment.
The SPE is literally the example for what NOT to do in research ethics classes. Zimbardo was chasing fame.
It sucks because Lord of the Flies isn't about how the human condition, it exists to shit on "The Coral Island" and other shitty colonialist boys novels of that era, but rarely is that aspect ever explored in school and instead teachers just focus on how this book about british brats being stuck on an island is actually a representation of all of humanity.
I remember my English teacher told me that if the kids where grills then they wouldn't have killed each other and worshiped a pig.