• Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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    Stalin interrupted: “Yes, you have, of course, read Dostoevsky? Do you see what a complicated thing is man’s soul, man’s psyche? Well then, imagine a man who has fought from Stalingrad to Belgrade–over thousands of kilometers of his own devastated land, across the dead bodies of his comrades and dearest ones! How can such a man react normally? And what is so awful in his having fun with the woman, after such horrors? You have imagined the Red Army to be ideal. And it is not ideal, nor can it be, even if it did not contain a certain percentage of criminals–we opened up our penitentiaries and stuck everybody into the army.

    Djilas, Milovan. Conversations with Stalin. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World, 1962, p. 110

    Djilas was an anti-communist though so it isn't the most reliable source.

    • kilternkafuffle [any]
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      we opened up our penitentiaries and stuck everybody into the army

      This bit seems to argue against the veracity of the quote. Literally millions were stuck in the infamous prison camps at the time, and they were not let out - only the previously out-of-favor officers like Rokossovsky were.

      One of my ancestors was an imprisoned soldier when the war broke out (long story, he was innocent); he was put in a penal battalion, but never saw combat, despite volunteering for it. I think there were more than enough volunteers - many stories you read from the time are of kids who lied about their age so they'd be allowed to join, i.e., the subsequently famous writer Astaf'yev.

      Enlisting criminals wasn't necessary nor considered desirable because they'd be less trustworthy - but someone trying to smear the image of the army would add that detail in.

    • p_sharikov [he/him]
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      Djilas was anti-communist? I thought he was literally one of the top guys in the Yugoslav government.

      • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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        He was anti stalin as the Yugoslavs were and he later renounced communism entirely IIRC

        edit: He was one of the leading critics of Stalin leading to the Soviet-Yugo split. Then during the mid 1950s he went full lib and denounced the Yugoslav government as authoritarian. He spent the rest of his life being sent to jail by the Yugoslav government over and over again for publishing books that were against communism.