We have exceeded 1.5c warming.

"I think it's safe to say that both 2023 and 2024 temperatures surprised most climate scientists - we didn't think we'd be seeing a year above 1.5C this early," says Dr Hausfather.

"Since 2023 we've had around 0.2C of extra warming that we can't fully explain, on top of what we had expected from climate change and El Niño," agrees Helge Gößling, a climate physicist at the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany.

.2C of extra warming since 2023.

substantially reduce global greenhouse gas emissions to hold global temperature increase to well below 2°C above pre-industrial levels and pursue efforts to limit it to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels, recognizing that this would significantly reduce the risks and impacts of climate change - The Paris Agreement

  • polpotkin [none/use name]
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    10 days ago

    No, this isn't an inevitability. We are capable of emitting less CO2. But you see new trucks with 13 miles-per-gallon that will take at least 10 years to get off the road so clearly the threat of change isn't making its way to the market.

    • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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      10 days ago

      i meant under capitalism, which is why i mentioned the fantasy scenario of sudden global socialist revolution lol. capital* doesnt give a shit if civilization will end in 20 years because of this, and the will to push back against capital among the bourgeoisie seems totally gone to me. literally the only place doing anything substainal about it is china, and unless they do some truly crazy geoengineering that saves our asses they cant do it alone.

      *

      referencing this couple of thought provoking essays about viewing capitalism as being under the control of capital itself as an alien entity rather than being under the control of the bourgeoisie. first one here: https://ianwrightsite.wordpress.com/2020/09/03/marx-on-capital-as-a-real-god-2/

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        10 days ago

        I'm one sentence in and it made me think of something that really really resonated with me when I first saw it a few years ago:

        There is a specific aspect of Marx’s theory of capitalism that I believe isn’t sufficiently emphasised. And that is Marx’s view that capital is an actual entity — a being with a mind of its own that operates independently from us.

        There's an episode in Tuca and Bertie s2 called "The Moss" which uses moss as a metaphor for capitalism in this manner. it's a moss growing on things, and you can't reason with it or try to make it empathize. it's just moss. ngl one of the most succinct and perfect metaphors for capitalism I've seen in media

          • crime [she/her, any]
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            10 days ago

            Yeah that's a good one. It's a bit more abstract than moss though, requires a baseline level of scientific literacy and isn't as visually striking (to the extent that it's visible at all)

        • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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          10 days ago

          it's a moss growing on things, and you can't reason with it or try to make it empathize

          yeah, i really think this is so much better to describe what we face than so much of the stuff I've seen said online, there isnt enough emphasis on the fact that the bourgousie are in a way forced to behave in the way that they do (outside of like, the weird pedophile rings, thats entirely on them)

            • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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              10 days ago

              well if it makes you feel better ive never done any hallucinogenic lol. regardless, one of the things i find most interesting about it is viewing capital in this way actually gives an incentive to the bourgeoisie to bring down capitalism. idk if you could actually use this to convince someone in that class, but more engels types in our desperate situation certainly wouldnt hurt, so i say if you happen to know a member of the bourgeoisie it's worth a shot to send it to them lol

              • Breath_Of_The_Snake [they/them, comrade/them]
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                10 days ago

                It does a bit lol, but I wasn’t torn up about it either.

                Precisely, the clerics of SQL do so much to convince their patrons to appease the deity rather than engaging in rational self interest. The rich don’t actually directly engage these days, the clerical caste has more control over capital than those who own it under capitalism.

                • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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                  10 days ago

                  I guess it depends on how you look at it, there's a perspective where it makes total sense to give control to the priests, because they make line go up quite well tbh. i guess im saying you need to appeal to that independent "i am the master of everything!!!" side a lot of the bourgeoisie have lol.