Hopefully won't pass
I'm going to take a wild guess and say this bill doesn't do the same for CNC machines despite those being literally how you make actual guns. Fucking NY liberals.
Gun control policies being made by people who have never shot a gun, classic liberalism
A Shapeoko is only a few hundred dollars more than a Bambu X1C and it makes functional weapons that don't jam. This does nothing to prevent people making guns in garages.
Never even heard of that now I'm going to look it up and never be able to afford one but want it anyway 🥰
Shapeoko
I can't believe you've gone and mentioned something cool and expensive for me to hyperfixate on as a new hobby.
That router ain’t cutting steel for those of you thinking it might. But if a gun can be 3d printed it can be routed from plastic too. I wouldn’t wanna shoot any gun made of plastic anyway though
You use gun parts for the actual shooty bits, the plastic is everything else (which is usually plastic these days anyway)
I've cut steel on a shaepoko before, it's just a tad bit slow.
The Bill is 387 words long. It provides a definition:
"THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER" MEANS A COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL.
A random google search provides the following definition:
Computer numerical control (CNC) is a manufacturing method that automates the control, movement and precision of machine tools through the use of preprogrammed computer software, which is embedded inside the tools.
I agree the bill is stupid. It’s equally stupid to make this a conservative vs liberal issue. This is a ruling class vs subservient class issue.
Stop playing into artificial distinctions designed to fracture the power of the many. Be better.
I'm a communist. This bill is pushed by liberals, specifically the Democrat-flavored liberals rather than the Republican-flavored liberals. Both parties are capitalist and fall under the umbrella of liberalism as it is classically defined, regardless of whatever that term might mean in American discourse.
Thanks for clarifying. Considering it is a NY state bill, I assume you can understand my confusion.
It’s equally stupid to make this a conservative vs liberal issue
He isn't. We're communists here.
My point exactly. This is a bill promoted by the capital class (that can get access to weapons easily) designed to prevent labor from having the means of producing their own means of self defense.
The last line of his comment is
Fucking NY Liberals
It is NY liberals pushing this bill though. It is specifically an American NY liberal bill.
Just because he is specifying the particular sect of capital class ideology doesn't mean he is incorrect, nor that he is specifically positing a 'liberal vs. conservative' dichotomy. You are reading that into the statement for some reason, which is outside my business.
It’s hardly being pushed through. It’s currently in an assembly committee. You are reading liberals pushing a bill that will likely not even make it to the floor into the current state of the bill for some reason, which is outside my business.
Do you just make a habit of reading incorrect context into things that aren't there?
It is legislation being introduced and supported (colloquially 'pushed') by NY liberals, I never implied it was being shoved through committee or forced through the legislature.
Look, not to be pedantic, but you've already moved the goalposts once, care for a second time?
When did I move goal posts? Honest question.
It’s a NY state bill on an issue related to firearms. In that context it is not strange to read the word liberal on the same context.
Now that I understand you mean liberal v communist it is more clear. Although I don’t understand the significance of a NY liberal vs any other state.
Yeah, exactly. Siding with capital against the workers is libs doing lib shit. Nothing to do with the blue-versus-red team sport of US bourgeois electoral politics.
Never said blue-red. Said conservative-liberal. The point I made is that those are all arbitrary distinctions designed to turn worker on worker.
Yeah, you're the one invoking that false dichotomy in response to "Fucking NY liberals" — especially when the liberals in question are the lawmakers here, not workers. Liberalism is a real ideology, and one that's in opposition with and derided by communists. Complaining about liberals making liberal policy decisions isn't anti-worker in any way.
Please list the liberals, other than the sponsor, that are in support of the bill.
Edit: assuming that you mean liberal v communist as raised in the other posts, my confusion came from the qualifier “NY.” Aren’t most US politicians liberals in this context? What is it about the NY specific variant that matters in the context of the bill?
Most communists don't bother making a distinction between Liberals and conservative Liberals. They're just libs.
Technically, they are all conservative liberals (in the legislature) at this point. There was a point in time when there were radical liberals who wouldn't be opposed to a little outside the law tomfoolery.
Many consumer 3D printers, especially well-known ones like RepRap's, or Prusa or Voron, are open-source designs made to be assembled from general-purpose pieces. Many people already make them in this way. Whoever came up with this didn't do a basic background check on the tech...
The whole thing is fear mongering. The libs genuinely believe you can make a fully automatic AK-47 in .50 caliber ("Just upscale the barrel lol") out of resin.
If you are determined enough, you can make anything. You absolutely can't just download a file and print an AK-47, but anybody who is disgruntled enough can find a way to kill someone.
Whoever came up with this didn't do a basic background check on the tech...
The law was likely requested by a billionaire. Practicality doesn't matter as much when it's a direct request
You can print drones, does that make people with cheap printers capable of warfare? Lmao Amerikkka is cooked
China is going to be sending a colony ship to Alpha Centauri while the United States outlaws screwdrivers and books which teach you how to make screwdrivers.
It's just like the California micro-stamp laws, where technically the technology exists, but in practice it just restricts everything.
NY introduces bill to require background checks for any materials capable of creating
I wonder if this works in reverse? If banned from owning firearms = banned from owning 3d printers,
then having a 3d printer should be an automatic firearm license, yes? of course not because logic don't governmentWe only pulled an Abe once and they’re still so scared by Fallout-like weapons.
Every time I see mentions of Abe I think of another Abe because the parallels are striking. No pun intended.
