https://twitter.com/the_vello/status/1321435262023536641

Feels like (the good parts of) old chapo again, drop an AOC post and go grab some lunch... come back and there are over 60 replies :)

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    AOC struggle session time! My opinion, she is standard socdem likely with sympathies to the more radical wing, constrained by her worldview and in congress. Also the online left I think sometimes just imagines something they hate and project it on her (I do agree with critiques of her).

    • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The left has so little power than a standard socdem seems like a radical and I'll take it for now

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Problem is we can't have the lib to left pipeline end at socdem

        • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Absolutely not I completely agree with you but without the socdems the lib to left pipeline ends at lib.

          • SerLava [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah to illustrate that, someone like D*stiny can actually be better at deradicalizing Nazis than someone who isn't an annoying neolib psychopath. It's called a pipeline and not a catapult, for a reason.

        • opposide [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Correct but the good news is, as I’ve commented elsewhere on this post and will say it again here, AOC attaching her name to our leftist events and organization here on the ground in her district has recruited so many leftists indirectly.

          She attaches her name, OUR (ML run/organized) event gets overwhelming positive response, people feel like they’re making an impact, they ask for us to keep including them, we show them that our direct action and organization is more effective at helping the people of our community, and suddenly they are radicalized. We used to have a group of roughly 15 leftists. After AOC nominally attached her name whether for optics or genuine interest, we now have hundreds of members of an organized community. It doesn’t sound like a lot in a city with millions of people, but the group is now organically growing and winning over the hearts and minds of people through praxis, and an organized community has the ability to punch well above its weight given the ability to then field candidates to control the power of elected positions that were normally used against the left. Improving material conditions because of AOC’s (in)action have made it possible to build a left power base for the first time in a long time here

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The only universally valid critique I have of her is that Bernie was much more of a populist in rhetoric, constantly going after billionaires, never really talking about himself, whereas AOC has a tone much more comparable to say Warren.

      She and all of the other further left members of congress would cleanly fit into GUE/NGL type parties in Europe which are left of succdem but aren't communist. It's essentially just 1960s succdems.