Ruth Webb used to supplement her grocery shopping with a monthly trip to a local food pantry, where she would get fresh produce like potatoes, onions and carrots.
Honestly I feel like Americans are so propagandized that there’s no degree to which material conditions can deteriorate that will punch through it, but who knows,
covid has had people in direct conflict with the police for more than two months straight across the entire country. if by "americans", you mean the PMC, sure, but otherwise, the american proletariat has entered the world-historic stage. no propaganda makes the evictions and starvation okay to the literal tens of millions of people going through it.
the number of people impacted by these evictions, loss of UI, etc are at the same order of magnitude as the number of people who voted in the last election.
Fair point, I should have made the distinction, I was mainly referring to PMC. It’s seriously gonna be interesting, and terrifying, to how to see how all this plays out.
they have a class interest in not seeing it. nothing has really impacted them yet. their kids dying in schools might shake them, but who knows. there are indications that small business owners are joining the protestors in cities like Portland, which literally seals the fate of the state regardless of how long the PMC continues to tongue their own buttholes.
I think people who were born into a PMC family are feeling way more precarious than their parents and a lot of them have been forced to essentially become Proletarian with benefits (lots of people working low paid office jobs and having mommy and daddy pay their rent etc). The petit bourgeois is definitely declining way more rapidly though. The hard part is going to be bringing these new Proles into our camp instead of them siding with fascists like they normally do.
yea, agreed. I'm speaking specifically about the existing PMC, not their downwardly mobile children. in contrast, the petit-bourgeoisie are being told to fuck off in favor of the bourgeoisie as their last bastions are wiped out in cities across the country. they are being directly proletarianized in a way I didn't think was possible at the start of this crisis. like if you're going to do a bailout for anyone, it's obviously them, right? they're the lynchpin of liberal democracy - if they sway to the forces of revolution, the state crumbles.
in the short to medium term, I'm not actually that afraid of them joining the fascists. counter-revolution is being conducted almost exclusively by the state right now and their would-be allies haven't embraced dying for the cause just yet: groups like the proud boys generally walk away from fights rather than picking them even when outnumbered to give security forces an excuse to bloody protestors. they'll come around to that eventually but for the immediate future they aren't a real political force. that will change quickly as the state crumbles and the fighting over the future begins in ernest. it's at this point that the petit-bourgeoisie (and PMC where they haven't already) will properly join the counter-revolution.
Honestly I feel like Americans are so propagandized that there’s no degree to which material conditions can deteriorate that will punch through it, but who knows,
covid has had people in direct conflict with the police for more than two months straight across the entire country. if by "americans", you mean the PMC, sure, but otherwise, the american proletariat has entered the world-historic stage. no propaganda makes the evictions and starvation okay to the literal tens of millions of people going through it.
the number of people impacted by these evictions, loss of UI, etc are at the same order of magnitude as the number of people who voted in the last election.
Fair point, I should have made the distinction, I was mainly referring to PMC. It’s seriously gonna be interesting, and terrifying, to how to see how all this plays out.
they have a class interest in not seeing it. nothing has really impacted them yet. their kids dying in schools might shake them, but who knows. there are indications that small business owners are joining the protestors in cities like Portland, which literally seals the fate of the state regardless of how long the PMC continues to tongue their own buttholes.
Allowing the reproletarianization of the petit bourgeois and PMC will probably be America's biggest rope-selling maneuver.
I don't think the PMC is actually facing that right now but the petit-bourgeoisie sure the fuck are. it's blindingly stupid.
I think people who were born into a PMC family are feeling way more precarious than their parents and a lot of them have been forced to essentially become Proletarian with benefits (lots of people working low paid office jobs and having mommy and daddy pay their rent etc). The petit bourgeois is definitely declining way more rapidly though. The hard part is going to be bringing these new Proles into our camp instead of them siding with fascists like they normally do.
yea, agreed. I'm speaking specifically about the existing PMC, not their downwardly mobile children. in contrast, the petit-bourgeoisie are being told to fuck off in favor of the bourgeoisie as their last bastions are wiped out in cities across the country. they are being directly proletarianized in a way I didn't think was possible at the start of this crisis. like if you're going to do a bailout for anyone, it's obviously them, right? they're the lynchpin of liberal democracy - if they sway to the forces of revolution, the state crumbles.
in the short to medium term, I'm not actually that afraid of them joining the fascists. counter-revolution is being conducted almost exclusively by the state right now and their would-be allies haven't embraced dying for the cause just yet: groups like the proud boys generally walk away from fights rather than picking them even when outnumbered to give security forces an excuse to bloody protestors. they'll come around to that eventually but for the immediate future they aren't a real political force. that will change quickly as the state crumbles and the fighting over the future begins in ernest. it's at this point that the petit-bourgeoisie (and PMC where they haven't already) will properly join the counter-revolution.
I don't think the American proletariat has done much of anything thus far.