• ChairmanXi [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Jeremy Corbyn slowly turning into a giant bug that will eat the UK :back-to-me-shining:

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'm a cockroach typing on a keyboard. I'm a defendant in a trial. I have no idea what my crime was or who's my judge or who is keeping me detained.

  • Terkrockerfeller [she/her]
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    So they treat anti-semitism accusations the way they think that rape accusations work: if someone say it, it is so forever, and any attempt at denial is just further incriminating proof? Cool.

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Corbyn: "Anti-Semitism is awful"

    Blairites: "Hmm, sound like something an anti-semite would say

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    'I am not antisemitic'

    • 'He is antisemitic!'

    doesn't talk about antisemitism

    • 'He is antisemitic!'
      • PaulRyansWorkoutTape [none/use name]
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        People in actual power are like the person they're actually going to hire for the job

        They know they're going to win purely because they're in position to, so the only thought they put into the questionnaire is making sure to fill all the blanks. Doesn't matter with what.

        The exact chain of events would have happened if they called him a pedo or a wife beater or anything else.

  • Circra [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    These absolute fucking cunts are conflating antisemitism with criticisms of Israel and it's terrifying.

    I figure this website gets the distinction but so many people simply won't.

    These chuckefucks are gonna get us all killed. Fucking libs.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      They don't understand how unbelievably dangerous it is to conflate criticism of Israel with genuine anti-Semitism.

      What it does is it turns left-wingers who legitimately criticize and oppose the state of Israel who should ostensibly be allies of convenience (lol) against genuine anti-Semites (who tend to be murderous right-wing lunatics) into political pariahs, the same as genuine anti-Semites. This in turn pushes these mutual pariahs into each others' arms as strange bedfellows. You can literally see this phenomenon in action with hardline Marxist-Leninists giving "critical support" for Islamic fundamentalists who have become (due to the direct action of Israel and the United States among others) the only game in town when it comes to anti-imperialism, such as Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and the AnsarAllah rebels in Yemen. It's pretty undeniable that all of these organizations are rife with genuine anti-Semitism that inextricably intertwined with their opposition to Israel.

      You also see this phenomenon in action in different historical contexts, by which I mean phenomenon of how political pariahs on both the extreme right and left becoming strange bedfellows in opposition to the center.

      In the twilight of the Weimar Republic, an anti-republic majority became entrenched in the Reichstag, consisting of Communists and Nazis. Their mutual hostility to the functioning of the republic and mutual desire to see it destroyed led to the republic being essentially ungovernable except by presidential appointment and decree. These two parties were extremely bitter and irreconcilable enemies and yet they were thrust into conditions where they had a mutual interest in seeing the republic destroyed. The result was eventually Nazi triumph through a backstairs coup orchestrated by the mainstream conservatives.

      The post-WWI world order constructed by the Treaty of Versailles was only established due to the virtual disappearance of the Russian and German Empires as major powers on the world stage, and its continued existence was predicated on those empires never re-emerging and seeking to reclaim their status as major world power. Inevitably, of course, both did, in different forms. Due to their respective ideological systems, Nazi Germany and the USSR were both pariah states under the Versailles order. Because the British had no interest in actually allying with the USSR against Nazi Germany and preferred to instead continuously appease Nazi Germany to avoid a general European war while playing games with the Soviets and stringing them on indefinitely, this ultimately led to a converging ,mutually beneficial interest between Nazi Germany and the USSR, especially as Soviet security concerns in both Europe and Asia continued to escalate. The result was the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, the partition of eastern Europe, and the precipitation of World War II.

  • snackage [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The distinguishing characteristic of an intelligent being is the ability to hold two contradictory thoughts at the same time. This right here broke the dial and looped all the way around to inanimate object.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    Can we build a giant spring and just launch parliament into the Atlantic?

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I mean, sure we could blow them up

        In Minecraft

        But that would mean less poorly written thinkpieces in The Guardian about how anti-semitic it is to drown MP's

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Have we considered that putting Parliament on a suborbital solar trajectory might be an easy way of sunsetting Trident?

    • gloomyroomy [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Something about speaking English makes you easy to manipulate into believing this shit

    • Civility [none/use name]
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      I know it's kind of a thing here, but ironically calling for the deaths of everyone from the same race/country/cultural background as people doing something fucked up has always struck a wrong chord in me.

      Seeing it pretty much never fails to make me sad, and I think I've finally got the words to articulate why.

      A) Saying we should kill everyone of someone's race/culture/nationality implies that the bad person's race/culture/nationality is the reason they did the thing they did. Which is anti-material and reactionary.

      B) It kind of says that the people from that race/culture/nationality etc can't get better and the best we can hope for is for them to vanish from the world entirely.

      I get that the bit probably started off as irony posting "we should nuke britain" under a story of a british person doing something we don't like in the same way chuds post "we should glass the middle east" under a story about someone brown doing something they don't like but I think that this sort of posting has moved on from that, and gained a life of its own. Anything posted consistently enough, no matter how ironic it initially was, will slowly become stripped of its irony and without irony this bit is either straight up reactionary shit, defeatism, or some combination of the two.

      I know it's a low effort ironic meme, and this isn't really directed at you @SweetCheeks and I don't think most people posting it are trying to convey these things but I do think that those messages are conveyed by this sort of posting.

      • Skinhn [they/them,any]
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        4 years ago

        This articulates a general feeling of unease I've had with these really well, thanks.

  • mittens [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he isn't an antisemite