sorry comrade poopballs but your flesh is fucking delicious

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    I'm vegan. I know pig meat tastes good. I just wouldn't want to be responsible for the painful death of an animal . Do you think that just because something feels nice to you that it's okay to do even if it hurts someone else?

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      Hot take: If you're vegan and down with the revolution you should also be down to yeet all obligate carnivores.

      Striving to absolve yourself of guilt while being unwilling to act to stop the things you don't want to be guilty of from happening is pure liberalism.

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        Bad take, animals other than humans have no moral agency, and therefore cannot be held accountable for their actions.

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          Revolutionary violence isn't justified because the targets have it coming need to be "held accountable" and revolutions aren't (or at least shouldn't primarily be) about punishing oppressors. Revolutionary violence is justified because it is the only (or at least the surest) way to end oppression and the oppression ended is far worse than the violence used to end it.

          Obligate carnivores kill other animals horribly whenever they are given the chance and their continued existence means other creatures are dying so they can live. Why should we hold the lives of the predators as more valuable than the lives of their prey?

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            Jesus man, just eat some beans. Whatever weird mental gymnastics you have to do to convince yourself you're right to eat animals, just stop man.

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        Grow a spine and stop hurting those weaker and less powerful than you.

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      would you eat bacon from a pig that died peacefully of natural causes

      • mine [she/her,comrade/them]
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        No, but the bar for how we treat non-human animals is currently so low that i don't have the luxury to debate about the rights different species have to their bodies after they die at this point. We still have to debate about their rights to quality of life. if you can find me an animal that was not exploited by capitalists then the conversation about speciesism becomes more a more complicated ethical argument to have, but our society is not even close to that point yet. we all know that even the most greenwashed farms within capitalism contain animals who live restricted lives, are bred to overproduce/overfatten/etc. the cases of the miracle lone pig that never suffered a day in its life and died peacefully of natural causes is the exception that proves the rule, not the other way around.

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        The pigs that you eat didn't die peacefully from natural causes, they died in agony, screaming in fear.

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    This isn't a dunk on vegans but what real substitute is there really for bacon?

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      None. Those who say tempeh are lying. But "What about bacon" is still the worst possible response to veganism.

      • Wmill [they/them]
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        Yeah, I heard eggplant soaked in marinade then fried. Feel weird with veganism though like even if meat consumption went down I got a feeling meat would still be produced and any not sold will just be thrown away similar to how a lot of food nowadays. If we want to destroy the meat industry we need to destroy capitalism or at least the mechanisms that enable the industry to survive on the 'free market'.

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        I'll be on the look out for this next time I go shopping. Hopefully it's cheap, thanks.

        • Terminalfilth [they/them]
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          Price isn't bad where I am. I'm gonna try making some at some point. I guess you just put beans in a bag with the right culture and it makes itself.

    • mine [she/her,comrade/them]
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      depends on what it's in: if I want something salty and smokey (say, to add to pea soup), then I use chipotles in adobo. If I want something crispy (like in a salad), then I use seasoned croutons or a veg-based substitute. If I want something fatty, I'll add extra oil to what I'm cooking. Just think about what you like about bacon and focus on all the different ways you can find the same flavors.

      PS - heads up if you've never had it, tempeh needs to cooked and flavored to taste like bacon (it's not even close on it's own, it's more like fermented tofu).

      • Wmill [they/them]
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        Was typing in girl beans and getting confused. Never knew that this was called this. I been doing this for years, when ever I would steam a chicken I would save the skin and fry it when ever I was low on oil. Afterwards I would eat the crackling with salt.