• penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    The problem is once you start doing it like this you quickly realize that a lot of positions, especially managerial ones are actually accomplishing jack shit, so then you redefine what accomplishment means so you can preserve the power structure and you're almost back at square one, only worse. And of course there are positions and tasks that cannot be quantified as easy. I.e. what do you do with r&d which can take long time without producing results. In addition people tend to game the metrics, when they are measured on these metrics.

    • McDirtyBirdy [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Bruh you smart as hell. Most managers at my job don’t do as much actual productive work as the really hard working average associates. In terms of raw, physical stuff that actually gets accomplished, it’s not the managers doing the heavy lifting. But at the same time, basing compensation off of accomplishment is problematic. I’m a lot stronger and faster than some of my fellow employees who do the same tasks as me, but it wouldn’t be fair to pay me more just because I do more. I only do more by virtue of my random luck to be a physically fit person. If compensation was based on accomplishment I would not want the old people I work with breaking their backs to keep up with someone like me ya know.

      • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Bruh you smart as hell

        I know. My mom told me so :P

        The more time passes the more my dislike for managers grows. At best they are overpaid secretaries, most of the time - just the capitalist equivalent of petite lords and nobles. The decision making they do could and should be done by workers.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        If compensation was based on accomplishment I would not want the old people I work with breaking their backs to keep up with someone like me ya know.

        Old people should be retired and living on a pension, and young people should at least be guaranteed a decent standard of living. That would fix a ton of the problem you're describing.

        • McDirtyBirdy [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Oh 100%. I feel some kind of way about all the 50 and 60 year old guys who have to work alongside me. If my back is aching I just know there’s have got to be killing them 24/7. They deserve better at that age than to have to sell their rapidly deteriorating bodies