You can consider it ridiculous, but we're generally on the cautious side for this sort of stuff. A comrade explained patiently about its experience with NPD and about the personal feelings towards the word's overuse and convinced a lot of us that it's worth actively not using. Similar to "ps*cho", people are trying to say something that's easily described in other words without medicalizing others to create overlaps with people who are seeking to improve their lives through understanding themselves and building understanding with those around em.
Be respectful, I thought it was a troll for like 3 posts but I'm convinced I was the asshole for that assumption
I agree, and I think even moreso something that we do and should be proud of is this: we will try to understand the maximum argument you should be making for yourself before judging whether you are right or wrong.
I disagree heavily with the comparisons that user was making to the racist N-word, because I don't think the content of the usage is at all comparable really. One is a slur when used against someone of a race and the other is a word that shouldn't be used without specificity because it lumps people together that have nothing to do with one another. Someone with NPD might correctly be called a narcissist as a medical term (though I'd guess it's best to say "a person with NPD"). Nobody is correctly identified as the N-word (exception of self-identification for recapturing the term).
The arguments werent too strong honestly, but I think we can try to see the point anyways and imagine what would've been a better one ad compare that to our own rationale and adjust. So I pushed a bit more and read the other posts and managed to get some better understanding.
I didn't become a commie because any real-life MLs convinced me through arguments, but because I forced myself through rethinking my positions after encountering real life situation and people with bad arguments but great points.
I appreciate that we're able to have discussions like that on hexbear. Self crit is important, and there are words that are used more broadly in society, or overused as the case may be, that shouldnt be used in interesectional spaces or in the better world we're trying to create. Self crit is necessary to avoid reactionary thinking.
This isn't supposed to be a gotcha or anything, just wanted to mention it. "Pedophile" is almost exclusively used as a derogatory term, but it could and likely does apply to people who experience attraction to minors against their own will and never act on it.
You can consider it ridiculous, but we're generally on the cautious side for this sort of stuff. A comrade explained patiently about its experience with NPD and about the personal feelings towards the word's overuse and convinced a lot of us that it's worth actively not using. Similar to "ps*cho", people are trying to say something that's easily described in other words without medicalizing others to create overlaps with people who are seeking to improve their lives through understanding themselves and building understanding with those around em.
Be respectful, I thought it was a troll for like 3 posts but I'm convinced I was the asshole for that assumption
Edited for pronouns after seeing the post below
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I agree, and I think even moreso something that we do and should be proud of is this: we will try to understand the maximum argument you should be making for yourself before judging whether you are right or wrong.
I disagree heavily with the comparisons that user was making to the racist N-word, because I don't think the content of the usage is at all comparable really. One is a slur when used against someone of a race and the other is a word that shouldn't be used without specificity because it lumps people together that have nothing to do with one another. Someone with NPD might correctly be called a narcissist as a medical term (though I'd guess it's best to say "a person with NPD"). Nobody is correctly identified as the N-word (exception of self-identification for recapturing the term).
The arguments werent too strong honestly, but I think we can try to see the point anyways and imagine what would've been a better one ad compare that to our own rationale and adjust. So I pushed a bit more and read the other posts and managed to get some better understanding.
I didn't become a commie because any real-life MLs convinced me through arguments, but because I forced myself through rethinking my positions after encountering real life situation and people with bad arguments but great points.
well said. this community's embrace of self-crit is what makes me love it so much.
Thank you so much for the open mind, I'm beginning to see why Hexbear is awesome
I appreciate that we're able to have discussions like that on hexbear. Self crit is important, and there are words that are used more broadly in society, or overused as the case may be, that shouldnt be used in interesectional spaces or in the better world we're trying to create. Self crit is necessary to avoid reactionary thinking.
What about pedophilia
This isn't supposed to be a gotcha or anything, just wanted to mention it. "Pedophile" is almost exclusively used as a derogatory term, but it could and likely does apply to people who experience attraction to minors against their own will and never act on it.
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