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  • Provastian_Jackson [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    You strike for your fellow workers. Are you saying that if people strike to oppose Trump's reelection, you would actually be against the strikers? Am I hearing that correctly?

    • Young_Lando [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Yes. Unironically.

      What, is Joe Biden gonna do anything for me? Imagine holding a strike for your senile manager that got fired and your demand is restoring the senile manager into a leadership position.

      You can risk your life for a dodering former segregationist, but I'm not.

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Lando is probably saying they wouldn't put themself at risk in a protest for Joe fucking Biden, but if a general strike happens, everyone except chuds will stay at home cuz fuck work.

          • Provastian_Jackson [he/him]
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            nope, he is saying he would actively oppose striking workers https://hexbear.net/post/45889/comment/412954

          • Young_Lando [none/use name]
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            I'm already at home. I don't think anything would change?

            Also, I have no $$ and no union. I'm not withholding labor to make Joe Biden feel better. If he wants the presidency he can go and take it

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              Wheres the lib strike fund? How are they gonna feed people? This is as dumb as every other time someone called for a general strike with no left wing organization

          • Provastian_Jackson [he/him]
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            My friend, the goal of socialism is more or less of abolition wage labor. You are NEVER advancing the project by fighting for us all to go back to work.

            • Young_Lando [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I said I'm not striking. You can do whatever you want, I'm making this $$$ and donating a portion to nationwide bailfunds and my local shit.

              Don't tell me I have to put my body and life on the line for Joe Biden. Step too far

              • Provastian_Jackson [he/him]
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                I think we've kind of gotten wrapped up in the election as well and we all need to return to Marx. Even if you donate a portion of your income to bail funds, your employers are extracting an even larger portion to further their class interests. You don't fight capitalism by working for capitalists my good dude.

                In the hypothetical scenario of a large scale labor action that touches you wherever you work, you are not a socialist if you do not throw in with labor. Period. End of Sentence.

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                  4 years ago

                  The dumbest take I've seen so far is the critique that hypothetically, faced with Donald Trump we all need to strike for Joe Biden.

                  Great content. Fuck off, Joe Biden can do it himself

                  • Provastian_Jackson [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    coincidentally yours is also the dumbest take I've seen so far. Striking is good IN AND OF ITSELF.

                    • concessaoprasorrir [he/him]
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                      Striking is good IN AND OF ITSELF

                      now that i disagree with, because sometimes strikes (especially involving labor aristocracy) can actually be used and manipulated to fuck over a socialist government

                      example: chilean copper miners striking to fuck allende's government

                      general strikes are cool tho

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        I think he's saying that he would join a strike by staying at home. I wouldn't miss an opportunity to not go to work, but Joe Biden can go fuck himself.

      • CenkUygurCamp [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        you are correct. The Democrats are complicit in destroying the power of labour by letting it wither, haven't done anything to strengthen it. They haven't done a thing to strengthen anyone but the capitalists really. And people would have a general strike for that rotten faction of the bourgeois, granting it the ultimate legitimacy of the popular opposition 'party' (it is nothing more than an institution in practise). It is responsible for the state of the Government just as much as Republicans! Their purpose is to do nothing in power and suppress rising left-wing activity. You want those fuckers to be the authority that calls a general strike!?!

        It isn't gonna happen of course because that requires unions at peak strength, but people need to think about the implications more. This is a squabble between factions of the ruling class over the levers of power and people come up with a hypothetical in which a powerful labour movement just supports one side. Incredible.