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  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Is it just me or does the claim that "working class people vote against their interests because they believe they'll be millionaires one day" smack of lib condescension and not actually how most working class people think? I don't know anyone who thinks this way. But I DO know a lot of working class folks who:

    • don't bother voting because they think it doesn't do anything anyway
    • are too exhausted from working 2-3 jobs to even have the energy to care about voting
    • can't take off work to vote or risk being late cause they'll get fired

    Sure, I do know some people who vote against their interests on religious grounds or they view their identity as an X as more important than class interests. And the capital class has done a great job of convincing middle class folks that all taxes are bad so when there's talk of tax increase on the wealthy they think somehow it will apply to them. But those people pale compare to the non-voters who would vote in their interests if the deck wasn't stacked against them so much. Either way, there really aren't that many people who think "we better not raise taxes on millionaires because I'll be one one day".

    • Parzivus [any]
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      4 years ago

      IMO it's less "I'm gonna be rich" than it is "people who are rich deserve to be rich." The American dream is still alive to a degree, more in the sense that some mythical workaholic genius could become rich regardless of circumstance.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        It's really annoying. At least the feudals trained for hours a day from childhood in movement and dance and speech to project a false aura of otherworldly grace and power

        The USA is enthralled by a yelly white guy slumping in a hoodie and it's embarrassing.

    • 666PeaceKeepaGirl [any, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I think also a lot of the poorer folk who vote Republican tend to be in pretty low-capital areas of the country. It's a lot easier to vote to let capital fuck you over when the alternative is no jobs for miles around.

      • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I live in a pretty low capital area and I think this is right. Though, campaign signs are about 50-50 so far. It saddens me to see a rundown house plastered with Trump stuff though, and there are lots.

        • chillpilled [he/him,any]
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          4 years ago

          Reminds me of the time I overheard a homeless guy in McDonalds telling his friend, "The only thing keeping me going right now is Trump."

          • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            I wonder if they were the type that saw Trump as a means to destroy the legitimacy of the status quo, no matter the means (ends justify the means style). I suppose that'd make them an accelerationist. Though, they probably didn't consider that if certain people took charge of the admin then homeless people would be ferried off to the nearest gas chamber for disposal.