Natalie Wynn on Twitter
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So Trump is literally now a dictator. He claimed to have “already won” when he was still losing both the popular vote and electoral college. And today he’s executing what’s been his open plan for weeks, to announce with no basis that mail-in votes for Biden are “a fraud.”— Natalie Wynn (@ContraPoints) November 4, 2020

Damn, voting for Biden didn't work. Can't believe electoral institutions weren't on my side. I've exhausted all posibilities so I'll just do nothing

  • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    No, that's not what I'm saying. I have never seen her say anything that contradicts "Even if Biden wins and Trump is removed (kicking & screaming if not literally at gunpoint), it’s a shamefully narrow victory that showcases the continued power of the Trump base, the utter ineffectiveness of the Democrats, and the many glaring flaws of our whole electoral system" so why would it be necessary for her to change her views.

    "You should vote for Biden" is not the same thing as "Biden will save us all"

    • Mouhamed_McYggdrasil [they/them,any]
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      4 years ago

      Sadly for a lot of (internet) leftists, the bulk of their political activity can be summed up as "vocal declarations of support or condemnation for particular people/causes/organizations, without any meaningful contribution to it succeeding/failing". Voting in America is kinda the ultimate spectacle of "loudly declaring support/condemnation for something without any meaningful contribution to its outcome", So "I spent the 5 minutes it took voting for Biden because at least he won't OPENLY proselytize white supremacist followers to commit random acts of terror against minorities" gets turned into "Joe Biden is an important aspect of my political identity".

      • Mouhamed_McYggdrasil [they/them,any]
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        4 years ago

        TBH, I think this is actually the best outcome. Trump is out of the whitehouse, which is good for obvious reasons. The dems, however, by all measures definitely still "blew the election" though, and all everyone is talking about is "What the fuck, that was waaay to close, we might've won by just dumb luck", and most importantly "What the fuck happened, what did we do wrong". This video has been going viral in the aftermath https://www.thewrap.com/watch-bernie-sanders-accurately-predict-what-just-happened-on-election-night-9-days-ago-video/ . "Bernie Told Ya So" is going to be buzzing around mainstream perspectives now, and that can let us dominate the conversation.

      • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I could give a shit if people misjudge the relative threats presented by Biden and Trump and the merits of voting third party. The entire problem with the “vote blue” shitlibs is that they don't believe in any action outside voting, a perspective Natalie hasn't endorsed even though every fucking person on this site just pretends she did for some reason.

        And I don't get why the tweet you literally cited isn't evidence of her true beliefs but "idk I kinda feel like she would think this" is

          • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
            1·
            4 years ago

            If I'm going to be asked to hate someone, I'm sticking to what they did say, not what they didn't.

            Maybe if you think she's the thought leader of the entire left, then she's being irresponsible. Otherwise, this is incredibly tiresome shit that no one should ever care about.