That's not evidence anything changed, that's just Trump yelling at the sky demanding that a vaccine rains down. unless you can show any evidence this has actually compromised the process of developing a vaccine, it's just a bullshit excuse to raise distrust about vaccines
there is a reason that no one is trying to give you any fucking vaccines yet. because they're not ready. because as the scientists say, developing a vaccine is tricky and takes time.
you're trying to tell me that the vaccine being ready right now means that it's untrustworthy ... while the vaccine isn't ready yet. what the fuck kind of logic is that?
What specific amount of time needs to pass before you, almighty sage of infinite wisdom, deem the vaccine ready? And why do you know better than the people actually working on and testing the vaccine? If you don't trust the people developing the vaccine to test it properly before releasing it, what would another year do? I highly doubt that your stance would be any different if we were currently in November 2021 rather than 2020.
But the problem is that you fundamentally lack trust in the people developing and researching and testing vaccines. Why does an extra year among untrustworthy people who don't do their jobs properly make it any safer?
I don't buy it. Either you're not thinking through your own logic or you're intentionally lying to advance antivax bullshit.
An antivax agenda. What you're doing is normalizing the idea that vaccines are unsafe, that we should be skeptical of them even after they have undergone trials and been shown to be safe, and that the people developing them are untrustworthy and will release anything under the slightest political pressure. To support all of this you have offered nothing but, "idk I feel like its not safe"
Yes but you keep arguing as if there is going to be a vaccine out imminently. I just looked up a few news articles and they said that at earliest a vaccine would be ready for market by mid to late next year, at which point it will have been nearly 18-24 months.
If a vaccine comes out before that time then yes, I will be right there with you making O Rly faces at it, but until then this back forth argument is pointless.
I'm just trying to break up this dumb circular argument lol
You are arguing that a vaccine that comes out before 18-24 months is untrustworthy, Amorphous is trying to argue that a vaccine won't come out before it is safe, which by all estimates won't be until that 18-24 month mark. You are both arguing different sides of the same coin.
They haven’t even acknowledged my 18-24 months point.
True, they keep saying that they "trust the scientists," but by all accounts the scientists aren't saying that a vaccine will be ready any time soon. Faucci keeps saying later next year, which again, would be within that 18-24 month mark.
And in response to every single comment of mine asking for any evidence that the people in charge are having any detrimental effect on the process of developing and testing vaccines for covid19, I have received nothing but a solid pppphpphpppppphhhhblllllltt
That's not evidence anything changed, that's just Trump yelling at the sky demanding that a vaccine rains down. unless you can show any evidence this has actually compromised the process of developing a vaccine, it's just a bullshit excuse to raise distrust about vaccines
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there is a reason that no one is trying to give you any fucking vaccines yet. because they're not ready. because as the scientists say, developing a vaccine is tricky and takes time.
you're trying to tell me that the vaccine being ready right now means that it's untrustworthy ... while the vaccine isn't ready yet. what the fuck kind of logic is that?
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What specific amount of time needs to pass before you, almighty sage of infinite wisdom, deem the vaccine ready? And why do you know better than the people actually working on and testing the vaccine? If you don't trust the people developing the vaccine to test it properly before releasing it, what would another year do? I highly doubt that your stance would be any different if we were currently in November 2021 rather than 2020.
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But the problem is that you fundamentally lack trust in the people developing and researching and testing vaccines. Why does an extra year among untrustworthy people who don't do their jobs properly make it any safer?
I don't buy it. Either you're not thinking through your own logic or you're intentionally lying to advance antivax bullshit.
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An antivax agenda. What you're doing is normalizing the idea that vaccines are unsafe, that we should be skeptical of them even after they have undergone trials and been shown to be safe, and that the people developing them are untrustworthy and will release anything under the slightest political pressure. To support all of this you have offered nothing but, "idk I feel like its not safe"
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Yes but you keep arguing as if there is going to be a vaccine out imminently. I just looked up a few news articles and they said that at earliest a vaccine would be ready for market by mid to late next year, at which point it will have been nearly 18-24 months.
If a vaccine comes out before that time then yes, I will be right there with you making O Rly faces at it, but until then this back forth argument is pointless.
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I'm just trying to break up this dumb circular argument lol
You are arguing that a vaccine that comes out before 18-24 months is untrustworthy, Amorphous is trying to argue that a vaccine won't come out before it is safe, which by all estimates won't be until that 18-24 month mark. You are both arguing different sides of the same coin.
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True, they keep saying that they "trust the scientists," but by all accounts the scientists aren't saying that a vaccine will be ready any time soon. Faucci keeps saying later next year, which again, would be within that 18-24 month mark.
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And in response to every single comment of mine asking for any evidence that the people in charge are having any detrimental effect on the process of developing and testing vaccines for covid19, I have received nothing but a solid pppphpphpppppphhhhblllllltt
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"haha capitalists are untrustworthy, therefore vaccines are untrustworthy"
you're really going mask off now
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