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    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      With Libya (and Syria, too, although I think to a lesser extent) it's also important to note that the country was not at peace prior to the U.S. attack. There was some armed resistance that appeared to be genuinely popular. While some of that can be blamed on possible U.S. interference, people in other countries aren't just passive actors waiting for the CIA to give them orders; they can form opposition groups on their own, too.

      Picking a side when a conflict has already turned hot seems different than attacking a country at peace. It certainly makes it difficult to say you "started" anything. The U.S. still deserves plenty of blame for where Libya is today, but equating that to the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan is ridiculous.

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Obama expanded US special forces & drone campaigns in subsaharan Africa, I think that counts? Also if one demarcates the ISIS campaigns as a distinct entity--that's another. And if you count the US involving itself in Syria, which I think you should.