• Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    She said "what we see in... the UK." As in, a national health service. She's making common sense shit palatable to libs, there's no reason to turn on her just because she's avoiding preconceived notions Americans have drilled into their heads.

    Arguably, in fact, if you say "I want socialism" to someone who you know has a completely ass backwards idea of what socialism is, that's a lie, isn't it? Even if it's a truthful statement, you're knowingly misleading someone.

    That said, I don't think AOC is going to lead us to communism or anything. But to me there's no doubt that she's a good actor who's trying to secure positive change for a lot of people.

    • TossedAccount [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Arguably, in fact, if you say “I want socialism” to someone who you know has a completely ass backwards idea of what socialism is, that’s a lie, isn’t it? Even if it’s a truthful statement, you’re knowingly misleading someone.

      This is an interesting take. If you wanted to clearly communicate that you wanted socialism to someone who immediately associates the term with poverty from siege warfare and bureaucratic degeneration, you would have to explicitly spell out the correct definition. This means saying you democratically-controlled, centrally-planned economy. It means you want with publicly owned companies and workplaces, with workers' councils collectively making decisions w.r.t. production and distribution to solve problems and satisfy urgent social needs that privately-owned, profit-maximizing firms cannot.

      • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        If you need to be snappy, "I want democracy in the workplace" is a good way to put it. It's both fast and non-misleading.