https://twitter.com/BungaHead/status/1324899330893996036
Current programmer, it's really not hard work, and doesn't take "a certain kind of person." What this guy is saying is beyond service workers isn't even programming, and could literally be done by anyone.
Sure, there are some jobs where you legit need to be a fucking genius, like something in defense or 3d rendering or advanced algorithms or whatever, but the vast majority of the jobs out there range between tortuously banal to active waste of everyone's time.
Almost anyone can do it at the level most jobs require. No one wants to do it, because it's skull crushingly tedious as a profession unless you get very lucky.
Part of what pushed me so hard left is the vast chasm between how little work I actually do and my compensation, especially compared to my peers, who work ten times as hard for less than half the pay in fields people actually need.
Tbh, in my experience, I think even for defense, 3DCG or research, you don't necessarily need to be a genius as long as you're good at (mainly) linear algebra.
legit need to be a fucking genius, like something in defense
No way. Everyone I knew that ended up at a defense contractor was borderline incompetent, didn't know or care wtf a 'yemen' is, but knew how to be polite and piss clean.
"If other people get dignity then I won't be special anymore."
Also, the reason your order gets messed up is because they make each fast food workers do three things at once for hours on end without rest, because under staffing is profitable. :porky-happy:
Calling yourself a programmer for doing markup language is like calling yourself a mechanic for pumping gas.
This nerd thinks being able to debug LaTeX makes you useful to society
Speaking as someone who had to learn LaTeX for a work project, I upvoted this very hard. Fuck LaTeX. Knowing your way around a commercial kitchen griddle is a million times more useful.
Its a text format for creating nice looking documents (like PDFs) and formatting math equations and so on. It's a more exact way of creating documents as opposed to a What You See is What You Get editor like Microsoft Word.
I'm guessing because it looks like this. I've never actually used it though.
Yep, it's like having to write in HTML to produce a frigging Word document.
<greeting>hi</greeting>
{punctuation}comma{/punctuation}
[body]does doing pointless tasks makes you want to[/body]
(capitalize)bash(/capitalize)
[body]your head against the wall[/body]
{punctuation}question_mark{/punctuation}
Very steep learning curve to even getting to a comfortable proficiency, and it's compiled so when things fail it can be unclear as to why it's the case (especially the less experience you have with it). That and one missing \left and \right can break your entire document. It's cool though!
Please god don't make me read the word LaTex capitalised in that nerd-ass bullshit way outside of lectures. I come here for sanctuary.
Come over to my corner and play find the bug in 35 year old 6502 assembly codes with only comments written in messy roman character phonetic of the Shanghai Wu language.
Markup languages are a data format, not a fucking programming language. This fucking twit probably spends his time looking for fucking syntax errors and thinks he's hot shit. He would have a fucking nervous breakdown if he had to do my job (software engineer; currently reading, interpreting, and documenting an awful legacy project in a dead language) for even one fucking day, and I literally never complain when people mess up my food orders (which happens a lot, because I hate onions and they're in basically everything).
Oh absolutely. I actually do think programming isn't for everyone (it's one of my biggest criticisms of the whole learn2code thing; not everyone thinks in a way that's conducive to programming, and it can be extremely stressful to be desperately looking for the cause of a nasty bug as a deadline approaches), but that in no way justifies looking down on food-service workers--and this guy isn't even actually doing anything genuinely challenging to begin with!
yeah and also learn2code, along with being an easy dismissal, is an attempt to make what is right now a very desired and high paying job into a flooded market with low wages
I’m a programmer, it’s way easier than when I worked in the service industry.
Being a server was the most difficult job I had. Very physically demanding and also mentally taxing because you have to keep track of so many things at once. Also my managers except for FOH were abusive. Thankfully the kitchen staff liked me or else they would have been abusive too.
Being a camp counselor was also very tiring, but it was ultimately fun. It paid like shit and I don’t even like kids but I did bond with my campers and co-counselor. It’s also when I started drinking.
I enjoyed being a receptionist and a hostess, but they were probably as mentally taxing as my current job with the added pressure of having to speak to customers.
My easiest job was being a cashier at a smoke shop. It was super chill and I was taking a summer class and basically just did my homework the whole time.
With my current job, I do have to think a decent amount of the time, but it’s very cushy. Also way low pressure because there’s so much time to catch a mistake before it gets released. The best part is not being customer facing, that’s the most anxiety-ridden part of my other jobs.
I really do feel like outside of manual labor, jobs get easier the more you get paid.
I really do feel like outside of manual labor, jobs get easier the more you get paid.
That does makes sense as a rule of thumb. At every promotion, you'd rather get paid more. But you'd also rather be less stressed. So you get a bit more money and a bit less stress with every step up, until eventually you're the CEO and everyone is blowing you literally and figuratively AND you get more money than you could spend.
Of course there're workaholics who either enjoy their work (good for them) or are socially pressured to maximize their output (pity them) or want to be above others even if it kills them (fuck them). And there's lazy people. But as a rule of thumb it's a good description.
I'm a programmer.
My first thought reading this tweet was "Bitch! Don't even pretend like you ain't fucked up and spent half your day trying to fix a dumb ass syntax error!!!!!"
I'm a fast food worker. It's hard work. Takes a certain kind of person to do it.
Most programmers can't define a class or write a for loop without googling basic syntax or taking a break to grab an energy drink. What makes you think they can stand on their feet for eight hours without making a single burger typo (missing cheese)?
If you're 'troubleshooting a markup language' I doubt you've gotten much past 'hello world'.
"What did you learn today, sweetie?"
"Well mom I learned to log into Twitter and send shitty takes to the whole world!"I once worked with a co-worker who got sold 3 empty carts then blocked on all platforms by a regular customer, so he brought an LSD bottle to work and mixed in like a full dropper of it into the dude's dipping sauce.
Fast food kitchens are the wild west
As someone that has worked both as a programmer and a fast food worker, I don't know which was worse
In terms of the CHUD-iness of your colleagues, I suspect the former is much worse.
I’m not doing whatever I’m doing based on someone else’s bad prioritization.
Exactly! I'm doing it based on my bad prioritization :P
I’m stoked about programming but dread going into the field and making dumb shit that at best is a misappropriation of labour and resources and at worst actively harmful to society.
Dream job is in hacker in the People’s Revolutionary Cyber-warfare Division.
gimme a break. people do actually enjoy programming even if its their job
For what it's worth, he described my experience to a T. Developing yet another bullshit app, website or software in general that nobody needs for a company that shouldn't even exist makes you jaded pretty fast.
