We're as atomized and alienated as ever, but now we also can't afford to buy a house or raise kids. Libs will celebrate this.

  • Young_Lando [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The fuck? There are people who work for a living so they can buy a place to live. The fact that it is a capital asset and literally a necessity for life is not the fault of the working class person. If you live in the thing you own, it's fuckin yours. Renters should also own the homes they live in and essentially pay mortgage on.

    Let's not lose the ball here. The problem is not the person who owns their own home-- it's literal capitalists who flip houses for $$$

      • FoolishPosadas [any]
        1·
        4 years ago

        House flippers are very different from home owners. Flippers are basically in the same category as Landlords.

          • Young_Lando [none/use name]
            1·
            4 years ago

            I would agree with this. The thing is, with regular recessions the collapse of housing markets as a result of over-financialization, not even these people can seriously make bread in the long term. They're bound to get crushed. Educating working class people on how to save their money and not blow it on capital assets is part of our job.

              • Young_Lando [none/use name]
                1·
                4 years ago

                There are ways to invest money that don't involve becoming the oppressor and exploiting the fuck out of people.

                I'm not saying you get Central Park if you own stock or a house or some shit. I'm saying don't create more systems of oppression in your pursuit to survive and thrive in this hellworld.

                  • Pezevenk [he/him]
                    1·
                    4 years ago

                    Everyone who has a 401k is evil, but you need a 401k to have a decent shot at retirement. It’s not worker’s fault, but that doesn’t change the reality.

                    Weird.

                    The fact that we all have to sell our souls and that it doesn’t have to be this way is how you get people to be Communists.

                    Yeah, telling people they are evil for owning a home but don't worry because you could stop being evil under socialism is not a great way to turn people into communists.

                    A great way to do that however is what leftists did here when the state decided that prior safeguards preventing "primary residence" forfeiture should be abolished to appease our creditors and the IMF. Primary residence basically means the house you live in. The bank was allowed to take any other houses you might own, but not your primary residence, it was supposed to be a safe guard to help evil petit bourgeois ordinary people who owned the house they live in and nothing more from being thrown out of their residence. What leftists did was show up at the forfeitures and auctions and obstruct them. It was one of the most successful ideas of recent years, it protected many people (at least for some time) and it was widely approved by everyone from anarchists to just regular family people who weren't into swallowing boots whole. And it is something we weren't going to do if we thought home owners were evil capitalists (which they aren't).