I'd actually agree with you that officers as a whole are mostly irredeemable, they almost all already have University degrees and options. Though, they do directly engage in violence less than enlisted.
But Black Americans make up 19% of active duty enlisted personnel, a 40% overrepresentation in comparison to their share of the general population.
Similarly "Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander's" see a 120% overrepresentation. Multi-racial americans a 14% overrepresentation, with Hispanic and Asian Americans being the only racial minority groups who are underrepresented among enlisted in comparison to their share of the general population.
But again, I don't think the aforementioned overrepresentation of certain racial groups in the US military, which does exist, can be blamed on individual, rather than systemic faults.
The link doesn't seem to work, but I'm interested, as the one I provided lacks the crosstabs that I'd like to see.
But again, I don’t think the aforementioned overrepresentation of certain racial groups in the US military, which does exist, can be blamed on individual, rather than systemic faults.
I'll agree that we are discussing huge systemic issues, and I'm not trying to position this as an individualistic issue, rather I'm trying to point out that the mindset that leads these people to join up is something that is likely incompatible with the socialist ideal of benefitting everyone, not just yourself or people you like or people who look like you. Does this make sense? Like why is everyone willing to ignore the personal motivations that go into it, and refuses to imagine what a person like that would do in a hypothetical left movement/revolution?
Thanks for fixing that, dang what a resource! I was not expecting a 200+ page document on this. And that's all I'm trying to push here, that people need to stop hand waving and seriously consider the people they are trying to fold into the left
I'd actually agree with you that officers as a whole are mostly irredeemable, they almost all already have University degrees and options. Though, they do directly engage in violence less than enlisted.
But Black Americans make up 19% of active duty enlisted personnel, a 40% overrepresentation in comparison to their share of the general population.
Similarly "Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander's" see a 120% overrepresentation. Multi-racial americans a 14% overrepresentation, with Hispanic and Asian Americans being the only racial minority groups who are underrepresented among enlisted in comparison to their share of the general population.
But again, I don't think the aforementioned overrepresentation of certain racial groups in the US military, which does exist, can be blamed on individual, rather than systemic faults.
The link doesn't seem to work, but I'm interested, as the one I provided lacks the crosstabs that I'd like to see.
I'll agree that we are discussing huge systemic issues, and I'm not trying to position this as an individualistic issue, rather I'm trying to point out that the mindset that leads these people to join up is something that is likely incompatible with the socialist ideal of benefitting everyone, not just yourself or people you like or people who look like you. Does this make sense? Like why is everyone willing to ignore the personal motivations that go into it, and refuses to imagine what a person like that would do in a hypothetical left movement/revolution?
Link should be fixed now.
I mostly agree with your last point and will need to spend some time thinking it through.
Thanks for fixing that, dang what a resource! I was not expecting a 200+ page document on this. And that's all I'm trying to push here, that people need to stop hand waving and seriously consider the people they are trying to fold into the left
Oh fuck my bad, race/ethnicity data is all on page 23-30. A pie chart for active duty enlisted is on p.24
dont officers engage in more violence than a troop cause they command lots of troops.