GET HIS ASS MR PRESIDENT

  • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    this is what made them fuck him. he was totally down with the class war, police state, and white supremacy, but he wouldn't expand upon imperialism.

      • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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        4 years ago

        yeah completely fucked, no argument here, but that shit was fourth branch guided without a doubt in my mind and trump only ever expressed desire to end military expansion.

        • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Trump talks from both sides of his mouth. He's also dropped the "mother of all bombs", threatened to go after terrorists families, okay'ed the Venezuela coup attempt, regardless of it being driven by the hard neocons like Bolton. He will simultaneously say he'll end military expansion, while still engaging in it, such as the bombings in Yemen

          • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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            4 years ago

            dude the numbers don't lie, thousands less civilians died under trump than obama. like many, many thousands.

            trump is a piece of shit, no doubt, but a war monger he is not. he actively opposed it. the articles on the subject are begging to label him a "war president", but the defense department annually releases civilian casualties and trump's max count is about 13,000 after four years. one is too many, but 13,000 is less than the hundreds of thousands that die under previous administrations every time.

            • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Who the fuck mentioned Obama? Your suggesting Trump is against war which is as dumb as chuds thinking he's anti establishment

              https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/trump-yemen-war-civilian-deaths/

                • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  My article is countering your assertion that acthually he's not an imperialist. Bringing up Obama is pointless since he was also an imperialist.

                  From the article:

                  As soon as Trump came into office, civilian deaths in the conflict soared. Under his presidency, the U.S.-led coalition air and artillery campaign in Iraq and Syria against the terrorist group killed up to 13,000 civilians

                  Don't forget this was just one term

                  • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    but the defense department annually releases civilian casualties and trump’s max count is about 13,000 after four years. one is too many, but 13,000 is less than the hundreds of thousands that die under previous administrations every time.

                    that was his whole presidency.

                    we're comparing this to the hundreds of thousands of lives lost in previous administrations

                    edit: to simplify, when your kill count is only at 10% of the previous guys, the military industrial complex isn't going to get behind you as their guy.

                    • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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                      4 years ago

                      No you're comparing this. I'm saying he's an imperialist like the rest of them. Also my article debunks that 13,000 number since it states 13k civilians died from US campaign in Syria and Iraq alone under Trump. It doesn't even include the civilians that died in Yemen.

                      And his whole presidency was just 1 term, what are you talking about

                      Also what hundreds of thousands does under Obama?

                      • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                        4 years ago

                        to simplify, when your kill count is only at 10% of the previous guys, the military industrial complex isn’t going to get behind you as their guy.

                        • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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                          4 years ago

                          Stop being an apologist for Trump. Just because Obama was an imperialist, it does not mean that Trump wasn't. Killing tens of thousands of civilians in just 4 years with coup attempt in Venezuela, supporting the coup in Bolivia, to bombing a top Iranian official, etc. It all makes him an imperialist. I'm also not sure where you're getting the 10% number or how your tallying civilians killed under Obama. But bringing up Obama is a complete non sequitur on your assertion that Trump is in some ways not an imperialist

    • richietozier4 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Oh, he wanted to, but he keeps saying the quiet part out loud, and fucks up a lot