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  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    Like many splits, the theoretical justifications came after the interpersonal ones. Trotsky lost out on the top job, and fled to the west. He and his tendency were broadly allowed to exist by the west, as they aligned with the US foreign policy line on everything.

    Their tactics of selling newspapers is partly a survival mechanism. It doesn’t really threaten the bourgeoisie, it’s good for recruiting, and it gets them funds. They’re basically tiny NGOs with consistently bad takes on AES.

    That said, their analysis of things that aren't AES isn’t bad. Trotsky’s work on fascism is considered pretty stellar.

    • socialist [she/her]
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      As they aligned with the US foreign policy line on everything

      yeah okay

      • KiaKaha [he/him]
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        Anti-USSR, anti-Cuba, occasionally anti-China pre-reform, definitely anti-China post-reform. Pro-colour-revolution. Occasionally pro-ISIS.

        Maybe ‘everything’ is the wrong word. ‘The vast majority’?

        • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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          Don't know much about trotskyists today, but Trotsky pretty famously supported the CCP over the KMT while Stalin was still pro KMT. how do they justify the switch?

          • KiaKaha [he/him]
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            The Soviet (and even CPC) line was ‘work with the national bourgeoisie in a united front against Japanese imperialism’.

            The Chinese trot line was ‘fight reaction all the time’.

        • socialist [she/her]
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          anti whatever tankies dont like being critizised thanks now i understand

      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Enver_hoxha, I will die for you. Say the word, and I will retreat to the mountains and declare a protracted people’s war against the moderators of chapo.chat