• SirLotsaLocks [he/him]
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      yeah, also the right also is good at attracting people who are usually outsiders with a sense of community, and the people who consider themselves "gamers" were usually people that weren't the most popular people. The right took the identity of "Gamers" and pushed it up with their characteristics, and boom! gamer nazis.

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      good shit. played the original, now I'm replaying the Re-Mars-tered version

      • throwawaylemmy2 [none/use name]
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        I’m replaying the Re-Mars-tered version

        ...That's Guerilla, which isn't the same as Red Faction 1. Just so you know, unless I'm reading you wrong?

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        I think I got it automagically somehow because I had the old version on steam

        if you've already played through the original, it's the same afaict except the graphics and textures are better

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            it was solid fun in my opinion, if you can get it for 10 or 20 bucks I'd say worth it

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    This is because

    1. "Gaming" as a hobby centers around buying and consuming commodities. A "gamer" can flaunt their class status through conspicuous consumption (ie building the fanciest PCs). Their habits and opinions are shaped through consumer behavior ie "gaming journalists" as high priests telling their congregations what to buy.

    2. Game play is almost never integrated into the story and as a result the stories told by games (such as they are) rarely leave a lasting impression on the audience. Also they are mostly ridiculous escapist fantasies. Games produce impactful "high art" far less frequently than media such as film and literature.

    • ElChango [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      no GTA6

      This right here. There should have been a GTA6 two fucking years ago and they should be working on GTA7 by now but nooo god forbid we actually give the people what they want lest they start to expect that

        • ElChango [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yup. Although, I don't entirely blame the consooomers in this situation. They aren't helping, but it's Rockstar's fault for creating microT's in the first place instead of a new game.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Because the right spent time and effort subverting and hijacking gamer movements and spaces while the left sat there and went "pffft, fucking gamers, who gives a shit?"

    And now we're all sitting here with our shocked Pikachu faces.

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    1. People base their politics off their material conditions not their media consumption

    2. Most of these are way lib-ier than people give them credit for. Bioshock wasn't about how Libertarianism is bad, it was a misanthropic screed about how the purity of Libertarian society is ruined by the inherent corruption of human bias. It was also very "both sides" and people routinely forget that the real bad guy of the game is Fontaine and his pro-union uprising

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    There are no leftist Steve Bannons who have spent years invading and propagandizing the space.

    You know how Bannon got his start? Investing and managing a WoW gold-selling company. It was there he realized an entire generation of young (mostly white) men were just sitting at home not being organized or radicalized so he filled that void.

  • Galli [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I dunno, explain how Paul Ryan's favorite band was Rage against the Machine.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]M
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    Because people believe it's bad for your art to use political terms. It's not. If you tell a story about how capitalism is bad you should use the word capitalism.

    • FunnyUsername [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      This is how I feel every time I see things like X-Men or Detroit: Become Human. Just say racism is bad. Quit worrying about being "subtle".

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        X-Men has told some pretty fucking good stories. It's a much better oppression allegory than Detriot. I agree that we need more stories that are just about how racism is bad explicitly, but there has been some genuinely good shit in the X-Men comics.

        • FunnyUsername [she/her]
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          The main problem with X-Men is that mutants are actually dangerous. There aren't any black people that emit instant death auras or shoot fire out of their hands so the racism allegory doesn really work. I mean, why the fuck wouldn't people be worried about mutants when they can just be born with the ability to kill everyone around them even if unintentionally?

          • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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            Honestly, there's like, five total mutants that are inherently dangerous (as opposed to mutants who are bad because they are bad people and use their powers for bad things). And I agree that it was a bad idea to make mutants that are inherently dangerous, at least for the civil rights metaphor. It does sort of make it messy. But I think the general thrust of it is still good? Because none of those characters are particularly prominent? Except Rogue, I guess, but she has ways of managing her powers without causing harm.

            Like I get your criticism, but I stand by my point that some X-Men stories have been good.

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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      Infinite was pretty bad too. They both-sides the Vox Populi so blatantly. "Oh geez Fitzroy's just as bad as Comstock!" even though only one of them slaughtered natives, worked as a Pinkerton, and formed a death cult. The Vox are only guilty of the same messy uncomfortable shit that any revolution has to contend with.

    • cuckfucker93 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      How is beating beaten to death with a club noble? Also, tons of communists have been cruel and cowardly hypocrites, Sophia Lam sucking doesn't make communism bad just as much as Beria being a kiddy diddler doesn't make communism bad

        • cuckfucker93 [none/use name]
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          No but in art the representation of the people who believe an ideology is the representation of the ideology.

          eh, not really. That's reductive

          Also as he was being killed he was repeating the core tenant of his ideology, a true believer to the end

          Fat load of good it did him innit?

          He literally dies a slow and painful death on his knees pathetically reciting garbage randian philosophy in the burned out and flooding ruins of his dream. A dream that has utterly failed specifically BECAUSE of his objectivist philosophy preventing any improvements to society to prevent shit from collapsing

  • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Ill go against all the media crit here: I think it’s mostly that most self IDed “Gamers” are straight white dudes with disposable income. Obviously plenty of working class non white non dude people enjoy video games but they usually don’t build an entire identity around it, nor do they usually have the time and cash to get as into it as the GAMERZZZ do.

    Class interests tend to override propaganda.

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I've seen rightwing/antisemitic takes on deus ex, really bummed me out. There's just no way to reach some people.

    • bigbologna [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      The conspiracy theory aspect of Deus Ex really ruins any kind of left-wing interpretation if you don't or can't look at that as it being a video game where there can be a bad guy responsible for everything that you can shoot in the face. The good guys being what amounts to a secessionist second amendment-focused right-wing militia also I don't think helps

      • ElChango [he/him]
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        Yeah, it was definitely r slash I'm 14 and this is deep material when I was 14 and first being exposed to ideas like the illuminati, etc.

        Replayed it last week and it did not hold up to memory. Of course there are powerful monied factions who want to control the world, but it's not a hidden conspiracy or the fault of (((the others))) - they just do the shit right out in the open, no need to hide behind shadowy organizations.

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    Lmao, who reads the lore? Gets in the way of installing 60 mods and constantly crashing the game

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Confused as to how mod culture doesn't make leftists

      I mean it's literally what we want, the open source dream, or it was before modding became a cottage industry

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Modding is indeed a great example of why "people won't do work without monetary incentive" is extremely wrong.

        • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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          I'm always wary about making that point though, because it makes it seem like we want an economy that just operates on passion projects alone, which is obviously not going to be functional. I usually just point out all the nameless researchers and scientists who do most of the innovating but never become billionaires as evidence that no, one person does not need to have wealth equal to the GDP of a country for people to have cool toys