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  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    The most important takeaways from this are:

    1. It's easy for small political groups to become deaf to what ordinary people actually care about, and
    2. That type of tone deafness makes your small political group a joke and you get nothing done.

    No ordinary person gives a shit about abolishing driver's licenses. It's at worst some manageable hassle they have to deal with every few years, and if anything they probably want fewer reckless drivers on the road. What policies do leftists have endless struggle sessions about, that no ordinary person is really invested in?

    • kristina [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      and this is why the main line strategy is the best strategy there is. talk to someone about something they hate about our society, let them lead the conversation, and synthesize their complaint into the most left wing talking point you can. see if they agree with it, if not, ask what theyd do to fix it and then make that even further left. odds are, they agree with you at this point and its so much easier to convince them of other left wing things

      i was slowly able to make a gun hating lib into a gun toting socialist this way

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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      What policies do leftists have endless struggle sessions about, that no ordinary person is really invested in?

      most of them, but they are still (mostly) important to have

      • kristina [she/her]
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        the abolition of the state vs. not

        no one cares about this issue at all, the benefits are nebulous at best and most people will look at you like youre a weirdo if you start taking about smashing the state. the only way abolition of the state makes sense is when the entire world is socialist and we all decide to decrease the bureaucracy of borders, itll just be a natural progression of society where most things are great but we just want to get rid of minor annoyances and antagonisms.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      What policies do leftists have endless struggle sessions about, that no ordinary person is really invested in?

      Thing is, there is two categories. The ones that are about what is to be done, and how various things affect the movement, which no ordinary person cares about but only because they are not invested in the movement, and the ones that are like the driver's license thing.

    • KurdKobein [any]
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      4 years ago

      What was that thing that caused Bolshevik-Menshivik split?

      • Rem [she/her]
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        The mensheviks were basically the stupidpol of their day

  • The_word_of_dog [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Libertarians rule lmao

    Not their ideology or anything. Just the adherence to the bit.

    • threshold [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      So true. The booing could not be structured better in a comedy bit. My favourite Simpsons bits include crowds being chaotic reactionaries, often turning to riots.

    • Godzilla [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Just take possession of Elon Musk's body and make it happen already

  • Godzilla [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This 22 second video sums up libertarians so well

  • Blurst_Of_Times [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I think Libertarianism's appeal to a specific kind of terminally online uber solipsist (looking at toaster guy over there) has made it a lightning rod for the kind of hyper-reality that radiates from this clip.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    ive watched this like 8 times in a row and i still laugh