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I miss DroneRights [it/its]
Removed by modIt always had such interesting stuff to say. It was banned recently. I think it should be unbanned and allowed back. It had such interesting perspectives on neurodiversity.
I wouldn't be surprised if part of why it was banned was because the mods and many of the users weren't familiar with its type of neurodiversity.
Everyone engaged in good faith, and I'm sorry, even if it was neurodiverse that's not a pass to try and do erasure on enby comrades. (Especially since we all respected its pronouns)
That instance is very cut and dry to me and I don't see much reason to keep it around.
I think that's how I feel about it. While I never saw enough of DroneRights to really make any sort of solid conclusion about it, it said a number of things that felt kind of weird or hard to understand, misinformed-but-thinks-it-knows-better, or even kind of confrontational... But that's ultimately just how some ND people are, right? My brother is like that, and you could even say that I was like that as a preteen.
So to me nothing about DroneRights really seemed like any sort of fake or plant or whatever. I'm not going to say that DroneRights being ND and queer makes the ban necessarily unjust — the things it was saying were genuinely kind of offensive and sectarian sometimes — but I will say that I don't like seeing people acting like that type of person is necessarily "doing a bit", as opposed to just being ND and queer in a way that people don't like.
Yeah imo, it was kind of a dick sometimes but it didn't seem like a wrecker, just confrontational and argumentative but well meaning
Idk, I don't think it deserved a ban, it seems unfair to like, wrecker jacket it
Yeah. If being kind of a dick sometimes, and being confrontational and argumentative but meaning well are grounds for banning, then to make things fair the mods have a lot of banning to do...
Also of note, from what it posted before it was banned, it does not like being referred to as a person.
There are going to be bad takes sometimes. Those operating in good faith should be informed of what went wrong. Neurodiverse users are not necessarily going to know where the unspoken, invisible social lines are. We should strive for a culture where neurodiverse users acting in good faith are treated with the respect that other users acting in good faith are given.
Agree with you completely. Moderating a big leftist community is hard, and giving users a little more leeway with controversial posts would make it harder.
I feel like if this site values neurodiversity, site policy should change to not insta ban people who are just misguided and not willfully malicious, and our agressive "dunking" culture needs to chill out a bit.
@Egon@hexbear.net
made an amazing effort post a day or two ago about our culture of dunking and assumed bad faith.
Our community really needs to discuss ND inclusivity in this site and in moderation.
I'm glad to see this brought up, because I've already had someone be aggressive to me because of my communication style here and it has turned me off from commenting.
And in general I've seen a lot of casual ableism here. Mostly in the dunk tank. I don't think that calling people "idiots" just because they haven't been educated on a topic is okay. Normalized slurs are still slurs.
I think this is a great approach. I also used to use lemmygrad and I mentioned I was not comfortable with others and the way they made claims, in no way putting them down I think and apologizing preemptively if I was, and I still was met with less than nice comments.
I came to hexbear and I find comrades here significantly more supportive and respectful, which has made me stay here and comment and interact more than I have in any other online community. I still love the comrades over at lemmygrad, I think I just would like to keep a bit of distance there. I also think when they see I am from hexbear there's an automatic solidarity between us and I see more good faith responses as a result.
I'm tired of withdrawing from spaces where I don't feel welcome. There's basically nowhere left. Almost all spaces are hostile to ND people, and the places made for ND people are all extremely liberal to the point where I simply can't relate with anyone. I'm tired of standing outside of the spaces where people meet and socialize and looking through the glass. This is how ND people end up isolated.
Really sorry to hear that comrade. It's definitely hard. It makes me wonder if something like a village at some point in the past may have been ideal (assuming all material needs were met, which is a big assumption) since there would be some sense of community.
Wishing you the best 🤗