• machiavellianRecluse [none/use name]
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    If the legacy of masculinity is toxic then what can you really do about it? What if a trans person wants to embrace their "American" identity but the online critique of America's history makes it harder.

    If someone is being terrible to them irl then they are surrounded by shitheads. Online venting on Tumblr is not the same as some rejection of who you are by the people around you.

    • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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      I don't think that men shouldn't be criticised, and I do think that women and femmes deserve a space to be able to vent their frustrations with patriarchy. But there comes a point where criticism and venting become bullying.

      • machiavellianRecluse [none/use name]
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        But there comes a point where criticism and venting become bullying.

        I just think there is a distinction in purely online phenomenon (in mass forums) vs IRL harassment (or anything more persistent). Anyway, I guess all I want to say is that people need to log off so I am going to follow my own advice now (in a bit).

      • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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        You are never gonna have every person on your side. Be it as a man, a woman, or genderfluid. It’s not your responsibility to be liked by everyone. Only that you affirm your humanity.

        Men are trash is not really a dehumanizing act, more of a critique. Just be a good “man”, whatever that means to you.

        • StickmanPirate [he/him]
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          This is why I fucking hate left-wing spaces sometimes. Justifying legitimate sexism as "venting" is fucking gross and all it does it alienate people who would actually agree with us. The reason I started moving to the left is because I saw how fucking hypocritical liberals (tumblr feminists etc.) and right-wingers were and the left seemed to reject that.

          This kind of shit is the reason tumblrinaction and other alt-right recruiting grounds find it so easy. We are either against racism and sexism entirely, or we're just as hypocritical as the liberals.