My friend asked me this tonight and I was wondering what yall think

    • Segorinder [any]
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      See, in that thread about trump and imperialism, I could get behind the argument of 'the interests of capital entirely dictate the outcome', but here there are facts of biology that are outside of the control of capital. Most of the ruling class would love for everyone to be fully immunized immediately, but if some issue comes up about the effectiveness or side effects of the vaccine, they may decide that the second best option is to cover up the flaws so that they can tell people to go back to normal.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      The interests of capital have no incentive to make a bad vaccine.

      They not only want it for themselves, but they want things to return back to status quo even more.

      Telling people the vaccine is safe and effective even when it isn't will get people returning to their old working/spending/line-go-up-making habits though, which is good for short-term profit which is the only thing the interests of capital care about

    • The_word_of_dog [he/him]
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      My conspiracy minded brain thinks that, instead of like a fake vaccine, we'll just end up seeing quite a few "almost to the market promising" vaccines intended as an investment signal, but don't make it to market for whatever reason.

      I think we'll eventually get a good one though, but before that it'll just be a bunch of misleading press releases that make some ghouls richer.

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      Glad to see this actually becoming popular here. A few weeks ago the common sentiment was overwhelmingly antivax, I got downvoted hard for calling that out.

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        If this was a US made vaccine I’d be pretty suspicious, especially if it was a available before the election.

        The Pfizer vaccine seems like it’s probably effective, but I doubt any of us will be able to get our hands on it with how difficult it is to store and transport.

    • Koa_lala [he/him]
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      You act like there has never been a dangerous corner cutting product that entered the market. I recall a fucking Boeing airplane nose diving at random recently by some jank ass code. Sure they want to make profit, but they also want to do it whilst cutting as many corners as they can get away with. I'm not antivax at all, but I'm not going to inject myself with a vaccine that's rushed out of the door. If you wanna do that and beta test, go right ahead. I'll socially distance and wear a mask in the meantime until it's properly proven to have no nasty side effects.