Yeah, there's shithead lapdogs like Shapiro and whatnot, but I've read that Israeli leadership fuckin' hates diaspora Jews because they're way more left on average and won't unquestioningly help spread their narrative. They're considered "bad Jews".

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          And what do they do with the rest of the matzo's body, anyway?

      • star_wraith [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        That's not how they see it. They think they're playing the long game by slowing strangling the Palestinians.

      • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Basically to survive. The Israeli government knows that its existence depends upon the disenfranchisement of Palestinians, so it won't stop oppressing them. Also, it needs to defend itself against hostile Arab neighbours, so it must maintain a strong military and alliances with great powers. If the United States were to see a big reduction in its ability to project power, Israel would be in deep shit.

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I remember Ben Shapiro going through everything he feels makes you what he calls a "Jew In Name Only" and it basically excludes 90% of Jews, haha

    Like straight up if a Jewish person is to the left of John Bolton, is remotely tolerant of LGBT, has any criticisms of Israel or has ever dated a non Jewish person they aren't Jews to Benny boy.

    • Scarlet_theorem [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      If I remember correctly, he even celebrated Howard Zinn‘s death and wished Chomsky the same in the very same tweet.

  • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I think it's kind of generational. Old Jews seem to be Zionists to their core while most young Jews I've known haven't given a shit about Israel or even hated it. There are definitely some young Zionists though, usually either devout Orthodox or yas kween neolibs.

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Those are fake right? Like those are 100% Mossad/IDF sock puppets. I've met liberal Zionists and woke Jews but there was never overlap.

        • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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          4 years ago

          Beats me. Probably the majority of them are just misguided kids, whose opinions didn't get any better after getting dunked on by people like Brace and Felix. Wouldn't surprise me if there were feds or Hasbara in the mix tho.

        • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I think there a few genuine, however some do seem to repeat zionist talking points. Classic fed confusion tactics,

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Are they actually Zionists? I've seen some people dm them and ask about the Labour leaks and they legit don't know what the Labour Leaks are and many say they are anti occupation. I'm not jewish so I've been kinda just watching this fight on the side.

        • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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          4 years ago

          Maybe, maybe not, but even if they're ostensibly not, they end up carrying water for the occupation by promoting the "antisemitism on the left" bullshit scaremongering.

  • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    What is it with Jewish people and being Maoists? I swear when I followed Maoist twitter like a good quarter of them were Jews.