That during every modern american "violent" protest (I.e. at the very least tear gas came out), WTO protests, occupy, latest round of BLM protests. There is a far larger effort than you can possibly imagine that brings in already legitimized community leaders to act as wreckers to slow down the pace of radicalization within the group.
A bunch of the others are much less obvious, but the above is something that absolutely needs to continuously be emphasized.
I'm not even saying high level coordinated ops from the feds. It could really be as simple as the fire chief asking some random guy to do them a favor for some money.
I mean they might just be a dumbass.
One of the people leading one of the biggest anti-racist marches here this year kept trying for ludicrously long and convoluted chants that nobody could repeat back.
At least they seemed to be having fun.
Except it isn't even just cointelpro as in CIA professional infiltrators. It's literally just the local mayor, police and fire chief, ect. going up to community figures and asking them to fuck shit up but not let anyone know of their involvement. Usually these folks get paid.
Did y’all watch woke? Starting the night Fed Wheeler came out and continuing for months after, there was a group of ops putting on a show for the crowd. It was painfully obvious they were feds and yet people still gave them their attention. Their goal I think was to tire out the protesters before the pigs came out of their stall. They would make the protesters scream Black Lives Matter for sometimes 5-10 minutes straight. Say dumb shit like Abracadbra . They never had any clear messaging and gave themselves the right to speak because they brought the speaker and microphone.
It can be both, like a "violent" thing further away from the main crowd can attract certain groups of people away from the main crowd. Ultimately everything is about divide and conquer.
That during every modern american "violent" protest (I.e. at the very least tear gas came out), WTO protests, occupy, latest round of BLM protests. There is a far larger effort than you can possibly imagine that brings in already legitimized community leaders to act as wreckers to slow down the pace of radicalization within the group.
A bunch of the others are much less obvious, but the above is something that absolutely needs to continuously be emphasized.
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I'm not even saying high level coordinated ops from the feds. It could really be as simple as the fire chief asking some random guy to do them a favor for some money.
I remember a post in /r/CTH where a “community” organizer took over a march and fucked up the route and all.
I mean they might just be a dumbass. One of the people leading one of the biggest anti-racist marches here this year kept trying for ludicrously long and convoluted chants that nobody could repeat back. At least they seemed to be having fun.
There's definitely some wreckers around though.
I’m not conveying how suspicious the OP described the apparent leaders.
We also know that at least one “protest leader” in NYC worked with the police.
No it wasn't that, it came out that this particular guy was recruited by the Seattle fire chief.
That's... ridiculous, and somehow wholly unexpected.
The dude was a rapper that toured with Macklemore back in the day as an opener. And now became a landlord/protest wrecker.
Was that the one in Denver? IIRC they worked for mayor's office
Cointelpro never ended? That's impossible, they promised they totally don't do that any more.
Except it isn't even just cointelpro as in CIA professional infiltrators. It's literally just the local mayor, police and fire chief, ect. going up to community figures and asking them to fuck shit up but not let anyone know of their involvement. Usually these folks get paid.
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Did y’all watch woke? Starting the night Fed Wheeler came out and continuing for months after, there was a group of ops putting on a show for the crowd. It was painfully obvious they were feds and yet people still gave them their attention. Their goal I think was to tire out the protesters before the pigs came out of their stall. They would make the protesters scream Black Lives Matter for sometimes 5-10 minutes straight. Say dumb shit like Abracadbra . They never had any clear messaging and gave themselves the right to speak because they brought the speaker and microphone.
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It can be both, like a "violent" thing further away from the main crowd can attract certain groups of people away from the main crowd. Ultimately everything is about divide and conquer.