We need an eco-Dictatorship of the Proletariat that makes Stalin look like a pacifist. Imagine just trying to ban massive trucks for personal use in the US. You would never be able to get people to do it without brutal force.
No, the idea that we'd need to be an authoritarian dictatorship to end climate change is capitalist fear-mongering "the cure is worse then the problem so lets not do anything!"
All we'd need to do really is put some heavy regulations on polluting industries. You might be limited in the amount of meat you can eat and you might not be able to buy a new gass guzzler, but thats about it. On top of that, if we mobilised our militaries to start creating carbon-absorbing forests, we could easily beat this thing.
Think of it like the CFC ban they did to stop the ozone being depleted. The Ozone was actually repairing itself. It is possible and you'd mostly be placing restrictions on megacorporations like Exxon.
Sure, new polluting products might become expensive or rare but, like, people can suck it up, the worlds fucking ending.
Regulations and shit used to be normal even in capitalist countries, we're just so whipped by the right-wing that any laws that restrict corporations have been demonised as evil commie scum.
I was mostly joking, but there is a zero chance we could keep the Earth inhabitable without massive violence and restriction of "freedoms". You say "people can suck it up" but they won't, at least not willingly. US elites will literally kill millions of people to maintain favorable conditions in the oil market. They will not play ball and they have more power than all of us combined. They need to have that power forcefully taken from them with violence if we are ever going to do anything for the climate.
I said that they "can" not that they "will". Sadly I know our masters are too whipped by capitalism to do anything. They'd have to be forced by the people revolting. As conditions turn to shit, they might just have to to avoid extinction.
"We won't set our military on your CEOs for creating the largest threat to humanity the world has ever seen if you follow these regulations."
The government would have to grow a spine, of course, but they're still the government.
I mean yes, a climate economy would still be worth living. It's not some spartan dystopia. But there would have to be severe consumption restrictions over the next decade as we transition. The sharper the change the easier the medium term will be.
don't we need full eco-stalinism?
We need an eco-Dictatorship of the Proletariat that makes Stalin look like a pacifist. Imagine just trying to ban massive trucks for personal use in the US. You would never be able to get people to do it without brutal force.
we can't even stop people from rolling coal. we are absolutely fucked lmao
This is why we need an ecocommunist vanguard to brutally repress climate criminals.
No, the idea that we'd need to be an authoritarian dictatorship to end climate change is capitalist fear-mongering "the cure is worse then the problem so lets not do anything!"
All we'd need to do really is put some heavy regulations on polluting industries. You might be limited in the amount of meat you can eat and you might not be able to buy a new gass guzzler, but thats about it. On top of that, if we mobilised our militaries to start creating carbon-absorbing forests, we could easily beat this thing.
Think of it like the CFC ban they did to stop the ozone being depleted. The Ozone was actually repairing itself. It is possible and you'd mostly be placing restrictions on megacorporations like Exxon.
Sure, new polluting products might become expensive or rare but, like, people can suck it up, the worlds fucking ending.
Regulations and shit used to be normal even in capitalist countries, we're just so whipped by the right-wing that any laws that restrict corporations have been demonised as evil commie scum.
I was mostly joking, but there is a zero chance we could keep the Earth inhabitable without massive violence and restriction of "freedoms". You say "people can suck it up" but they won't, at least not willingly. US elites will literally kill millions of people to maintain favorable conditions in the oil market. They will not play ball and they have more power than all of us combined. They need to have that power forcefully taken from them with violence if we are ever going to do anything for the climate.
I said that they "can" not that they "will". Sadly I know our masters are too whipped by capitalism to do anything. They'd have to be forced by the people revolting. As conditions turn to shit, they might just have to to avoid extinction.
good luck with that. they may as well own the government
"We won't set our military on your CEOs for creating the largest threat to humanity the world has ever seen if you follow these regulations." The government would have to grow a spine, of course, but they're still the government.
I mean yes, a climate economy would still be worth living. It's not some spartan dystopia. But there would have to be severe consumption restrictions over the next decade as we transition. The sharper the change the easier the medium term will be.
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yes. we are currently scouting for an Eco Stalin. think you have what it takes? apply at ecostalinism.gov
You have no idea how disappointed I am that wasn't a real website.
I'm afraid to click, what does it redirect to?
Tragically, its unregistered.