Link to article

For those of you who don’t know, this is huge news because these kinds of things typically only get filed after the union advocates determine that there is overwhelming support in that workplace. There are 1500 staff in this warehouse . Alabama is one of the most anti-union states in the country.

Absolute support for these workers.

Website for the Union here

        • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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          4 years ago

          I agree with you in a lot of respects, and the structure of modern unions is pretty much a mirror of the Democratic Party (an elite full of cushy make-work jobs that ignores or actively spites their membership), but that doesn't make the actual concept of labor organizing "lib".

          A lot of unions have been neutered because of the political environment as well. It's not like membership suddenly just became Chuds overnight.

          white savior type libs with zero class consciousness.

          You just described the entire American "Left". "Folks" who are "totally working class" because they are young and still slumming it with the common folk.

          Mostly for the same exact reasons people call vooting lib. Master’s tools etc etc.

          If organized labor were "the master's tool", you wouldn't see such swift, decisive action against it from both sides of the aisle. Every single Democrat, and a lot of Republicans, beg you to vote, but outside of Bernie and sometimes Warren, organized labor barely credits a peep.

            • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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              4 years ago

              I agree with you again, but the "embarassingly bad" part is when people completley dismiss massive, already existing labor groups in favor of IWW larping or other bullshit.

              Edit: Unions themselves are best seen as tools to build consciousness. They aren't literally going to overthrow the state all by themselves. They're just a concentration of working people arguing for their collective interest and building solidarity.

                • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  the act of organizing in America is very liberal and more about writing doner checks and making phone calls than uniting people

                  Off-topic, but this applies quadrupably to ~direct action~, "mutual aid", and all the other bullshit phraseology that gets tossed around in our circles.

                  Not sure why you got downvoted either (actually totally sure why) , this has been a great thread.

                  • Bedandsofa [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    Not sure why you got downvoted either

                    Well it’s a bad take and an oversimplification—workers aren’t permanently entered into the category of “lib” by virtue of unionizing, even if the enemy class influences unions and union leadership. There is not “zero class consciousness” at play when workers voluntarily organize in their capacity as workers and against the interests of their bosses, even if the organizers don’t have specifically socialist politics.

                    Unions are not like the most advanced form of class struggle organization, but they emerged through class struggle as vehicles for that struggle. Unions are still, far and away, the largest working class organizations in the US, and treating them as a one-sided tool for capitalist control ignores the countervailing reasons why workers join unions in the first place.

                    Socialists can and should orient to unions to spread our ideas and win support. Unlike with say the Democratic Party, it is possible for socialists to win control of the major unions, through elections, on the basis of a class struggle platform .