Hey curious what others think, I'm a big believer in sustainable & permaculture based agriculture but also have heard of some instances where its helped, idk maybe that's monsanto propaganda I turn to you chacha to educate me.

"Golden Rice is a covert attempt to win wider approval for genetically modified food and will not solve problems of malnutrition. Vitamin A deficiency (VAD) – like other problems on malnutrition and hunger – is not caused by the lack of Vitamin A in food, but by people's inability to achieve a balanced diet." https://www.grain.org/article/entries/5177-golden-rice-is-unnecessary-and-dangerous

"Rainbow papaya (Carica papaya L.) is a genetically engineered (GE) cultivar with resistance to papaya ringspot virus (PRSV). This cultivar currently accounts for about 70% of Hawaii's papaya acreage. ... No differences were observed between GE and non-GE papaya for 36 nutrients at any of the tested fruit ripeness stages."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889157510002693#:~:text=Rainbow%20papaya%20(Carica%20papaya%20L,70%25%20of%20Hawaii's%20papaya%20acreage.&text=No%20differences%20were%20observed%20between,the%20tested%20fruit%20ripeness%20stages.

    • chapoid [none/use name]
      6·
      4 years ago

      That potential is THEORETICAL. None of those GMOs exist or actually work in practice. They are part of a coordinated public relations campaign to gain acceptance for the real gmos that actually exsist, which are designed purely to sell more pesticides.

      • crime [she/her, any]
        1·
        4 years ago

        The technology itself isn't the problem though, capitalism is

          • crime [she/her, any]
            1·
            4 years ago

            I mean yeah? The technology underpinning genetically modified crops has a tremendous potential to help feed humanity, in particular as we head into times of unprecedented global-scale food scarcity due to climate change. Deriding an entire technology because of the potential for abuse under capitalist systems is stupid as fuck

            • chapoid [none/use name]
              6·
              4 years ago

              The technology doesnt work at doing the things you think it has the potential to do. It's pure fantasy copium. You might as well be talking about the potential to genetically engineer super humans. The reality is GMO is a shitty technology used by pesticide companies to sell more pesticide. That's it. It's a technofix designed to solve problems that wouldnt even exist in the first place if it werent for capitalism - like how to grow even more fucking monoculture.

              High and Dry Why Genetic Engineering Is Not Solving Agriculture's Drought Problem in a Thirsty World

              Deriding an entire technology because of the potential for abuse is stupid

              You're acting like i'm stereotyping a minority or some shit lmfao. Technology is NOT neutral. You're just repeating a different version of the "guns dont kill people, people do" argument and it's stupid as fuck.

              • crime [she/her, any]
                1·
                4 years ago

                The technology doesnt work at doing the things you think it has the potential to do. It’s pure fantasy copium

                Literally minored in genetics, pretty sure I have a better understanding of the technology underpinning it than you do. Especially when you say shit like "GMO is a shitty technology" when it's not a technology at all but a collection of techniques.

                Introducing genetic resistance to viruses (as has been done with several species of squash) or other pests (done for many crops) helps yields, it doesn't inherently promote monoculture.

                Using techniques like CRISPR to introduce favorable genes like those isn't inherently different than selecting the crops that did the best at the end of each season and planting those the next year, it's just more efficient and allows you to cross-select things.

                Deriding GMOs as "a technofix designed to solve problems that shouldn't exist in the first place" is some serious ideological purity nonsense and is entirely unpragmatic. If someone rolled out some fantasy carbon capture technology to effectively mitigate the effects of climate change tomorrow would you similarly dismiss it as "a technofix designed to solve problems that shouldn't exist in the first place"? Rejecting solutions because the problems shouldn't exist is reckless and foolish.

                • chapoid [none/use name]
                  2·
                  4 years ago

                  lol a minor in genetics. Wow you read darwins finches and learned about mendels's peas. The genetics understander has arrived.

      • cilantrofellow [any]
        1·
        4 years ago

        GMOs are more than plants. Many of the medicines you take are products of research in genetically modified animals.

        • crime [she/her, any]
          ·
          4 years ago

          Yeah! GMO insulin is a big one, virtually all insulin is produced by an E. coli strain genetically modified to produce exact-replica human insulin. Prior to that all insulin taken by diabetics came from slaughterhouse pigs or cows.

          Imagine being opposed to that because pharma companies price-gouge insulin in the US or something like that lol