• Brown_Pelican [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    lmao neolibs are going full blown "student debt relief is regressive policy" (WARNING LINK TO R/NEOLIB)

    I got a ton of hate mail from the r/pol thread this morning arguing in favor of free college/trade school and student debt elimination, and go figure all them are parroting this same talking point. Although, there's some great comments on top of that thread, definitely good opportunity to lead some people further left.

    i'm getting slight hope there's a slight chance of something being done in regards to student loans this administration since this "regressive policy" talking point seemed to have come out of nowhere (correct me if i'm wrong.) I mean even this guy called for student debt elimination. i don't even need student debt elimination but holy shit so many comrades i know do and i really hope nobody is stuck with this terrible system ever again.

    I could go on all day about how college does not help or allow access to so many in the working class (where they're disingenuously arguing from) but god damn me if i'll ever let neoliberals try and push the discourse to solve these issues. It's just sad their opposition to free college and student debt relief is still essentially their go to line for everything, "you hate the poor" when their ideology is creating these issues to begin with. :capitalist-woke: :agony-yehaw:

    Anyway, fuck thanksgiving but i hope you all have a great day/weekend. i'm grateful there's a forum that has a good community and that both challenges my biases and doesn't make me rip my hair out when i read it.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I love the insinuation that working class people don't go to college. The people who need debt relief most are working class people who took out loans to try and go to school but had to drop out for a myriad of reasons relating to their lack of familial wealth. I know dozens of people like this, basically just as many as I know people who actually got their degree (though that's probably due to my own class position). It also describes me lol. The 2008 crisis reproletarianized a lot of "middle class" people in the US, and a lot of millennials have student debt with nothing to show for it. I can only imagine how many working people were enrolled when covid hit and will never be able to return to school. It's going to be millions.

      • Brown_Pelican [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Totally. And let's be honest, even the software/tech people making ~100k a year also generally live in the Bay Area/NYC or other cities where cost of living is stupid. I've had coworkers who lived in their cars while making $70k a year because they couldn't afford housing. Like yeah, they're making good money but are saddled with relentless student debt, health insurance, and insane cost of living.

        The entirety of the working class needs huge help, which is obviously our goal, but this most recent take has really irked me. And like I said, I'm coming from a perspective as someone who grew up living with 3 families in one normal sized household, did community college/state school, dropped out of college at one point, and worked full time throughout college so I hardly have any debt. I'm still obviously 100% in favor of helping everyone even though I won't benefit. Like, imagine simping for banks this much so they keep profiting off this. :dumpster-fire:

      • Brown_Pelican [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        100%, I think this is why it's irking me so much. These same clowns will praise the CARES Act when money was straight up given away to wall street, but this and m4a are a bridge too far. :amerikkka:

      • Brown_Pelican [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        These are some really good points. I'll definitely incorporate some of this to my arguments in the future when this comes up again. :rat-salute: