• FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
    hexbear
    75
    9 months ago

    grillman Yes, I am plenty familiar with the concept of 'supply and demand'...

    grill-broke I demand you supply me with my treats for minimum wage!

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexbear
      8
      9 months ago

      Less than minimum wage because tips... that you only get if you smile more and put up with aging sex pestery! grill-broke

  • Egon [they/them]
    hexbear
    58
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    I dunno, he's not really wrong. Like sure me want treats or whatever, but that doesn't seem to be what he's communicating.
    We expect something "big" to happen when we transition from one era to another, but that's not how it really is. Stuffs gradual until it isnt. Society collapses when the bonds that tie us together disintegrate and one of those bonds is reliable and good employment. When you can't get that or expect that from a job, then you don't apply. The reason you don't expect those things is because shit is fucked. Where I live the "help wanted" signs are never taken down due to high turnover. It didn't use to be that way. Shits fucked and it's not sustainable

    • star_wraith [he/him]
      hexbear
      40
      9 months ago

      One thing that really got me thinking differently about all this is how Patrick Wyman would talk about the “collapse” of the Western Roman Empire. Especially how it was very “uneven”. Some regions (like Britain) experienced swift, severe decline. It was slower for others. And some regions even fared better when the central authority lost power over them (North Africa).

      Through that lens, lots of parts of America are already in collapse. Certainly a lot of inner core parts of cities, and rural towns for sure.

      • Egon [they/them]
        hexbear
        36
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        Yeah exactly, that's what I mean and I think it's what the dairy Queen dude means as well. He's not saying "me want treats" he's being funny about something stable disappearing.
        Patrick Wyman is great, and that whole series is fantastic. He also talks about this gradual change - people travelling less, less food getting exported, less Military security. you rely more on the local mercenaries, after some time. They settle in. Your dad remembers his trip to Napoli still and your grandma was actually Spanish but met your granddad while he was stationed in Iberia, while you've never left your province

        • PZK [he/him]
          hexbear
          24
          9 months ago

          I don't know if he means well, but whether he is accidentally correct by whining about treats or he is giving a relatable example, he is right on the money.

          Rather amusingly, treats are pivotal to both the economy and the culture of America. A Wendy's closing in America could actually be a sign of decline. data-laughing

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
    hexbear
    39
    9 months ago

    Easy access to treats is the primary thing that brings Americans together

  • MorelaakIsBack [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    35
    9 months ago

    no dean

    societal collapse looks like you getting blended and passed through a dairy queen ice cream maker because the locals found this tweet

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
    hexbear
    34
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    Not being able to? Dairy Queen just doesn't want to, when every job has sky high requirements, expects you to work for free, or usually both. Porky is the worst example of a charity case known to man.

  • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    33
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    He's not wrong in that collapse often isn't an apocalyptic reckoning, it's sometimes a slow degradation of conditions and inability to change paths. Caring about Dairy Queen specifically is treat brained, but look at Russia post-USSR collapse - there wasn't a giant explosion just a decade of immiseration and quiet death

    • ReadFanon [any, any]
      hexbear
      17
      9 months ago

      I'd seriously recommend this opinion piece on this topic.

      If you’re waiting for a moment where you’re like “this is it,” I’m telling you, it never comes. Nobody comes on TV and says “things are officially bad.” There’s no launch party for decay. It’s just a pileup of [disruptions,] outrages and atrocities in between friendships and weddings and perhaps an unusual amount of alcohol.

    • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      15
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      I’m doing my part 🫡 🍹 🍹 🍺 socialism-beer

      Just dump my corpse on the White House lawn

  • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]
    hexbear
    32
    9 months ago

    there’s a middle ground between these two. he could have brought up the supply chain issues and that store shelves are barely stocked (i had a 24 hr cold the other day and i went to 5 pharmacies looking for covid tests, they were all out of stock). instead he went w the “nobody wants to work” line

  • aaro [they/them]
    hexbear
    31
    9 months ago

    I mean, they're kinda right, not in that societal collapse is when no double chunky munky blizzard, but societal collapse looks like that in that it's a fair bet as a precursor to societal collapse. I think it's pretty reasonable to think the treats will be the first to go and the loss of the treats will precipitate more chaos.

  • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
    hexbear
    29
    9 months ago

    why is this in the dunk tank, that person is merely pointing out the collapse of feudal capitalism (good thing)

      • Adkml [he/him]
        hexbear
        40
        9 months ago

        He's not really wrong though lol.

        Most of the supports have already collapsed in America about all we have left is the ability to placate people with infinite treats.

        If that goes away people are gonna start noticing literally everything else sucks too.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      31
      9 months ago

      Mate, even if every corn-syrup and animal-protein-slurry dispenser in Amerikkka was destroyed, feudal capitalism would still reign. See Haiti.

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
        hexbear
        22
        9 months ago

        but we can't destroy the corn syrup replicators how else am i to get spare parts for my lawnmobile

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
        hexbear
        15
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        the government must estabilish a national treat monopoly that forces all treat employees to buy a portion of treats from all other treat dispensories via a sovereign treat employee fund

    • Judge_Juche [she/her]
      hexbear
      14
      9 months ago

      I assume he is coming at it from a "the kids are too woke to work anymore" angle, maybe unfair but he has a blue check which must be treated with reflexive hostility.

  • M68040 [they/them]
    hexbear
    26
    9 months ago

    The most minor inconveniences stimulate hitler particle emission the most