That's the key part here, yes, there were far right elements involved, but they never got control of the movement, they weren't even allowed to take part in the workers' councils that coordinated it. They were a vigilante, independent movement.
Unfortunately it was enough so that the current government can push the narrative through lobbyists that it was indeed an anticommunist revolution even though the goals the movement had are explicitly communist,
The thing is we are talking about two and a half weeks here, and there was no truly ideologically unified movement. The only thing that unified them was that they hated the USSR.
The most famous document from the uprising is the "16 demands" - this was compiled by one faction, the college students, and even this isn't completely coherent. Like some points seem very communist, even left communist, but they are also demanding a multi party (liberal?) system, "reconsidering the planned economy" and there's also a demand about supporting "individual farmers" (Help the kulaks!)
And this is just one faction
So obviously most people grab one aspect and claim "this is what the uprising was about"
The soviet-communists obviuosly emphasized the reactionary, ultra right wing elements. And who's to say they are *completely * wrong? The Nyilas party seized power mere 11 years before
I mean I'm much more comfortable with talking about it as a shitstorm, because it was more akin to that. but the general opinion of 56 on this site is that it was a fundamentally right wing revolution, which is not true.
There's hardly any, because since it happened, it's constantly a field of ideological battleground and so there aren't any good accounts that were written by hungarian marxists that are available in English
This by Gáspár Miklós Tamás is basically the closest i could find and there's a passage in C.L.R. James' Facing Reality about it - which misses two pages as it seems.
What's the overlap between "tankie" and what people have been describing as "red fash" in this thread?
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it's a slur for revisionists
FFS The hungarian revolution wasn't fucking anticommunist, it's fucking nationalist propaganda.
✓ Pogroms of jews
✓ Killing of communists
✓ Doors of jews houses marked with a black cross an doors of communists marked for the white terror extermination squads when they thought they'd win
✓ Mi6 funding the fascist revolutionaries
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mi6-trained-rebels-to-fight-soviets-in-hungarian-revolt-1359599.html
✓ Hungarian nationalist propaganda regurgitated uncritically
Which part if propaganda?
Were there no pogroms? Did mi6 not train them for an uprising and supply weapons in gladio style weapons caches?
It literally cites fucking Sebastian Gorka's father...
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TBF it was all over the spectrum: marxists, anarchists, socdems, liberals, and nazis were all involved
There were pogroms, and there were lynchings of party members... at least part of the uprising was reactionary
That's the key part here, yes, there were far right elements involved, but they never got control of the movement, they weren't even allowed to take part in the workers' councils that coordinated it. They were a vigilante, independent movement.
Unfortunately it was enough so that the current government can push the narrative through lobbyists that it was indeed an anticommunist revolution even though the goals the movement had are explicitly communist,
The thing is we are talking about two and a half weeks here, and there was no truly ideologically unified movement. The only thing that unified them was that they hated the USSR.
The most famous document from the uprising is the "16 demands" - this was compiled by one faction, the college students, and even this isn't completely coherent. Like some points seem very communist, even left communist, but they are also demanding a multi party (liberal?) system, "reconsidering the planned economy" and there's also a demand about supporting "individual farmers" (Help the kulaks!)
And this is just one faction
So obviously most people grab one aspect and claim "this is what the uprising was about"
The soviet-communists obviuosly emphasized the reactionary, ultra right wing elements. And who's to say they are *completely * wrong? The Nyilas party seized power mere 11 years before
Liberals emphasize the multiparty demands
Leftcoms emphasize the workers' councils
Nationalists emphasize the anti-russian part
It was all up in the air to be honest
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I mean I'm much more comfortable with talking about it as a shitstorm, because it was more akin to that. but the general opinion of 56 on this site is that it was a fundamentally right wing revolution, which is not true.
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There's hardly any, because since it happened, it's constantly a field of ideological battleground and so there aren't any good accounts that were written by hungarian marxists that are available in English
This by Gáspár Miklós Tamás is basically the closest i could find and there's a passage in C.L.R. James' Facing Reality about it - which misses two pages as it seems.
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