Dude, it's fucking star wars. They aint gonna make a whole trilogy that aint popular (but is still more popular than the prequels were till autistic zoomers got nostalgic for em kek) non-canon when they can just make a new trilogy set like 400 years after/before the new one and start fresh
Just give the entire franchise to the teams behind Rogue 1 and Mandalorian how fucking hard can this be?
They literally understand Star Wars and how to create real star wars stories better than any of the other incompetents that they've given it to. Just give them the main line of movies and the kind of budget they could only dream of having, they'll do it right.
Filoni and pals are great, They have spent the last 5 years carefully shoving every last bit of EU lore they can back in. They've already stealth re-canonised TOR.
the way filoni fleshed out the prequels' themes through an animated cartoon network show is absolutely astonishing to me, imo the man deserves the reigns to the whole thing
Fair criticism, they DO self-worship Star Wars because they're obviously massive nerds and fans, to the point that it's actually to the detriment of the work a bit. I like how down to earth it all is though, they write a good story and they focus on the individual characters surrounded by a very believable environment and society. Nothing feels fundamentally detached. All they need to do is bring down the worship of star wars that lies within their work and it would hit something really special.
As far as Star Wars goes I still think they've done the best work with the franchise since the original trilogy though.
As far as Star Wars goes I still think they’ve done the best work with the franchise since the original trilogy though.
See that's a hot take but honestly, I agree. A lot of the dudes working at DIsney seem to get that SW is medieval fantasy in space with samurai/western shit for flavor. It's really anachronistic, pulpy, and weird (and deliberately so). Meanwhile back in the 90's and 2000's every guy working in the old EU seemed to be in a race to one up each other in a "how to make something unique more generic" contest.
That's why Mandalorian works so well. It is just no holds barred a single cowboy in space.
But like you said, lots of franchise worship. Ditch that and get down to just being gritty and real. No need for it. A big problem all new content has right now is that it's all made as a tribute and homage to Star Wars instead of just being Star Wars. If the franchise continues onwards I would hope to see that people figure this out and move on creatively from it... Assuming actually-creative people remain in positions of value of course. If corporate drones end up churning out any old shite they'll sit around a meeting table and repeatedly make a ragtag bunch of heroes with [insert hero archetype from first trilogy here]. Here's Han, here's Chewy, here's the Princess, etc etc.
The most relateable character that has been written since the first series is K-2SO. Although L3-37 the robot from Solo is a close second because she wanted a fucking revolution, they fucked her up by turning her into a fucking spaceship computer and enslaving her for eternity though. If I were the Falcon's computer after expressing her revolutionary energy I'd have killed the people responsible.
Was the only vaguely creative movie that has come out of the property since 1980. I'd rather something weird get made that is flawed than the robot stuff that usually gets pushed out
Maybe but it was still just bad Star Wars compared to the Mandalorian and Rogue One. Bland boring aliens, stuff like the hyper-jump kamikaze, the shitty "I fuk ur mum" stuff right at the beginning. Being creative doesn't mean it was good, if I bend over and spray shit over my wall it's technically creative, but it still stinks.
It made the entire point of Star Wars space battles pointless. They've always been WW2 style dogfights but why not just make a bunch of ships and hyperjump them into other ships instead?
i dunno it's fucking star wars who cares? Why doesn't Morgana le fey just send legions of Green Knights after King Arthur and take England herself? Why did Odysseus piss off multiple Gods on his way home despite knowing that they'd be pissed? It's myth. Myth doesn't really operate on modern story structure
The prequels weren't popular, but sold well. The sequel trilogy has lead to a collapse in toy sales, they really thought those Porgs were gonna be big. The fall was so huge that they didn't even bother to scale production for Baby Yoda and were blindsided by the Mandalorian's popularity.
Dude, it's fucking star wars. They aint gonna make a whole trilogy that aint popular (but is still more popular than the prequels were till autistic zoomers got nostalgic for em kek) non-canon when they can just make a new trilogy set like 400 years after/before the new one and start fresh
Just give the entire franchise to the teams behind Rogue 1 and Mandalorian how fucking hard can this be?
They literally understand Star Wars and how to create real star wars stories better than any of the other incompetents that they've given it to. Just give them the main line of movies and the kind of budget they could only dream of having, they'll do it right.
Filoni and pals are great, They have spent the last 5 years carefully shoving every last bit of EU lore they can back in. They've already stealth re-canonised TOR.
the way filoni fleshed out the prequels' themes through an animated cartoon network show is absolutely astonishing to me, imo the man deserves the reigns to the whole thing
nah give it to Rian Johnson. R1 and the mandolorian are okay as side stories but they're too bloody self worshipping
Fair criticism, they DO self-worship Star Wars because they're obviously massive nerds and fans, to the point that it's actually to the detriment of the work a bit. I like how down to earth it all is though, they write a good story and they focus on the individual characters surrounded by a very believable environment and society. Nothing feels fundamentally detached. All they need to do is bring down the worship of star wars that lies within their work and it would hit something really special.
As far as Star Wars goes I still think they've done the best work with the franchise since the original trilogy though.
See that's a hot take but honestly, I agree. A lot of the dudes working at DIsney seem to get that SW is medieval fantasy in space with samurai/western shit for flavor. It's really anachronistic, pulpy, and weird (and deliberately so). Meanwhile back in the 90's and 2000's every guy working in the old EU seemed to be in a race to one up each other in a "how to make something unique more generic" contest.
That's why Mandalorian works so well. It is just no holds barred a single cowboy in space.
But like you said, lots of franchise worship. Ditch that and get down to just being gritty and real. No need for it. A big problem all new content has right now is that it's all made as a tribute and homage to Star Wars instead of just being Star Wars. If the franchise continues onwards I would hope to see that people figure this out and move on creatively from it... Assuming actually-creative people remain in positions of value of course. If corporate drones end up churning out any old shite they'll sit around a meeting table and repeatedly make a ragtag bunch of heroes with [insert hero archetype from first trilogy here]. Here's Han, here's Chewy, here's the Princess, etc etc.
The most relateable character that has been written since the first series is K-2SO. Although L3-37 the robot from Solo is a close second because she wanted a fucking revolution, they fucked her up by turning her into a fucking spaceship computer and enslaving her for eternity though. If I were the Falcon's computer after expressing her revolutionary energy I'd have killed the people responsible.
Why? TLJ was only good in the context of the two other shit films. It was still a bad film and even worse Star Wars.
Was the only vaguely creative movie that has come out of the property since 1980. I'd rather something weird get made that is flawed than the robot stuff that usually gets pushed out
Maybe but it was still just bad Star Wars compared to the Mandalorian and Rogue One. Bland boring aliens, stuff like the hyper-jump kamikaze, the shitty "I fuk ur mum" stuff right at the beginning. Being creative doesn't mean it was good, if I bend over and spray shit over my wall it's technically creative, but it still stinks.
eh, I liked 1920s world
That was based what are you on about
It made the entire point of Star Wars space battles pointless. They've always been WW2 style dogfights but why not just make a bunch of ships and hyperjump them into other ships instead?
i dunno it's fucking star wars who cares? Why doesn't Morgana le fey just send legions of Green Knights after King Arthur and take England herself? Why did Odysseus piss off multiple Gods on his way home despite knowing that they'd be pissed? It's myth. Myth doesn't really operate on modern story structure
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The prequels weren't popular, but sold well. The sequel trilogy has lead to a collapse in toy sales, they really thought those Porgs were gonna be big. The fall was so huge that they didn't even bother to scale production for Baby Yoda and were blindsided by the Mandalorian's popularity.
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chudskids. Cool and normalhey man im just going by what redditors like to self identify with