Try paying attention to how a president actually governs and how they've affected material conditions. If you look at it that way, Trump is at worst the level of Obama (who started 5 new wars), and several orders of magnitude less bad than W or Bill Clinton. Remember, Lincoln project wants to invade Iran/Vz/Russia. Fuck those war criminals

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      Test fucking millions of people?! Contact tracing? More effective quarantine?

      Fuck, throw a billion dollars into research or a vaccine attempt?

      Have you completely lost your fucking brain and gone full right wing to own the libs?

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        Yes, some of the responses in this thread are really maddening. Apparently it's a "white take" to say how Trump's platforming of a white supremacist lie about South African farm murders have damaged South African politics.

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        We literally don't have the supply to test millions of people. We don't have the fucking bench scientists to test millions of people. And the "defense production act" can't manufacture lab techs and scientists. Im making a structural critique of the US response instead of just "Trump bad" and that makes me a right-winger? Lol.

        How did these libs make it to the Lemmy? I figured most would have sunk with the Titanic of r/chapotraphouse

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          What, and Vietnam did? They have a tenth of our resources and did 10,000x more with it.

          It is literally right wing shit to think that the United States' Federal Government was unable to do anything about this. That it would be unable to do testing and contact tracing in a way that would significantly have changed the infection rates. That it had no access or ability to seize and command the production and resources it needed to take this pandemic seriously.

          It was unwilling and uninterested. To a self destructive degree, honestly. That's true of both parties, but not to an equal extent.

          Saying Trump did no worse than anyone else would have is fucking insane. It's to say that the US isn't declining, isn't rapidly deteriorating, and that no one could have done things differently, which just obviously isn't fucking true.

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            Sure, the US government could have done things better in the abstract. But considering real-world conditions, this virus is a perfect storm for all of the faults in American political economy and social life.